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<blockquote data-quote="radferth" data-source="post: 4925355" data-attributes="member: 5791"><p>Cadfan wrote in the Vancian thread "2. Not a fan of the Dying Earth books. Too much casual rape. I know, written in an earlier time, main character isn't a "hero" by any stretch of the imagination, prose is still excellent... but about the point where Cugel sells one woman off to be raped with only a twinge of guilt that he rapidly ignores, rapes another, and then shrugs and walks away when she's drowned as a result of his own actions, I quit reading. Technically neither woman was an absolute saint, and maybe I'm hypocritical for not putting the book down after all the casual murders Cugel commits, but I am what I am, I guess.</p><p></p><p>I'd rather read Matthew Hughes."</p><p></p><p>I, too, am having trouble getting through the Dying Earth books for this reason. Perhaps I am being hypocritical, because I love Howard's Conan stories. I expect I'll rally and finish despite my loathing for Cugel, because the setting is quite interesting to me, but I'll be rooting against the sociopathic protagonist. I guess everyone has got a certain level of evil they will put up with from the protagonist, and Cugel is way over my personal line. I had through Elric in the Moorcock Melnibone books would from what I had heard of him, but he just strikes me as more of a petulant PC. My trouble with finishing those books is that they give me PSTD-like flashbacks to bad, railroaded D&D campaigns I have been in.</p><p></p><p>(As an OT aside in my own thread, for all of the Harry Potter series flaws, I greatly appriciate that Rawlings treats Tom Riddle's sociopathy as a disability, rather than a super power.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="radferth, post: 4925355, member: 5791"] Cadfan wrote in the Vancian thread "2. Not a fan of the Dying Earth books. Too much casual rape. I know, written in an earlier time, main character isn't a "hero" by any stretch of the imagination, prose is still excellent... but about the point where Cugel sells one woman off to be raped with only a twinge of guilt that he rapidly ignores, rapes another, and then shrugs and walks away when she's drowned as a result of his own actions, I quit reading. Technically neither woman was an absolute saint, and maybe I'm hypocritical for not putting the book down after all the casual murders Cugel commits, but I am what I am, I guess. I'd rather read Matthew Hughes." I, too, am having trouble getting through the Dying Earth books for this reason. Perhaps I am being hypocritical, because I love Howard's Conan stories. I expect I'll rally and finish despite my loathing for Cugel, because the setting is quite interesting to me, but I'll be rooting against the sociopathic protagonist. I guess everyone has got a certain level of evil they will put up with from the protagonist, and Cugel is way over my personal line. I had through Elric in the Moorcock Melnibone books would from what I had heard of him, but he just strikes me as more of a petulant PC. My trouble with finishing those books is that they give me PSTD-like flashbacks to bad, railroaded D&D campaigns I have been in. (As an OT aside in my own thread, for all of the Harry Potter series flaws, I greatly appriciate that Rawlings treats Tom Riddle's sociopathy as a disability, rather than a super power.) [/QUOTE]
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