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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 6616629" data-attributes="member: 45197">Hiya!&nbsp;I didn't read the whole thread, so here's a grain of salt. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;Neutral is about &quot;survival of self first, then family, then friends, then everyone else&quot;. Chaos is about &quot;freedom to make choices and personal desires first&quot;. Evil is about &quot;getting something for yourself through the suffering and pain of others&quot;. Good is about &quot;helping those around you, even at cost to yourself, friends, and family&quot;.CN mixes the &quot;Freedom&quot; with the &quot;survival&quot;. The Chaotic part puts them in the &quot;me first, friends and family second...everyone else has to fend for themselves&quot;. The Neutral part determines how they will go about getting the &quot;me first&quot; thing accomplished. In this case...Evil nor Good are considerations.So, a CG person may think &quot;I really want that money! I don't know the guy, so I could kill him...I guess. But then again, he could be a really nice guy with a family. I mean...just because someone wants him dead doesn't really give that someone the right to just take his life. That's not fair at all. Hmmm....naaaa. Forget it. I'm not killing anyone for money.&quot; Now, a CE person may think &quot;I really want that money! And they didn't say how I had to kill him...my choice I guess. This is great! I can finally try out that new paralytic poison! If it works I can get in a little bit of fun torturing him to death. Count me in!&quot;.Now, the CN person may think &quot;I really want that money! I'll just take if from this guy now. Attack!&quot; ... Or maybe he thinks &quot;I really want that money! I'll kill that guy, sure!&quot;... Or maybe he thinks &quot;I really want that money! But I'm not up for killing anyone today. Pass.&quot;The big difference is that the CN person doesn't have that &quot;moral compass&quot; to help him decide on what action to take. He doesn't care if it's good or evil. He doesn't care about the outcome at all. He only cares about himself and what he wants at that moment. And yes, for the record, I do see CN as the &quot;insane&quot; alignment. It's a very difficult alignment to pull off, as D&amp;D is a group-based game, and CN characters are whimsical in what they will do. The player has to basically play the character in a way that will, eventually, result in the party killing him or otherwise &quot;not being with him&quot;. For CN, think uber-spoiled 7 year old; they want what they want, and they want it now...and they don't care how they get it.PS: Alignment is determined by the DM...not the player and not the characters &quot;personal upbringing&quot;. If the DM says &quot;Killing sentient life&quot; is evil, then it's evil, regardless of the fact that the CE drow cleric lived in Erelhei-Cinlu and there &quot;killing for fun and profit&quot; was a noble and aspired virtue.^_^Paul L. Ming</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pming, post: 6616629, member: 45197"] Hiya! I didn't read the whole thread, so here's a grain of salt. ;) Neutral is about "survival of self first, then family, then friends, then everyone else". Chaos is about "freedom to make choices and personal desires first". Evil is about "getting something for yourself through the suffering and pain of others". Good is about "helping those around you, even at cost to yourself, friends, and family". CN mixes the "Freedom" with the "survival". The Chaotic part puts them in the "me first, friends and family second...everyone else has to fend for themselves". The Neutral part determines how they will go about getting the "me first" thing accomplished. In this case...Evil nor Good are considerations. So, a CG person may think "I really want that money! I don't know the guy, so I could kill him...I guess. But then again, he could be a really nice guy with a family. I mean...just because someone wants him dead doesn't really give that someone the right to just take his life. That's not fair at all. Hmmm....naaaa. Forget it. I'm not killing anyone for money." Now, a CE person may think "I really want that money! And they didn't say how I had to kill him...my choice I guess. This is great! I can finally try out that new paralytic poison! If it works I can get in a little bit of fun torturing him to death. Count me in!". Now, the CN person may think "I really want that money! I'll just take if from this guy now. Attack!" ... Or maybe he thinks "I really want that money! I'll kill that guy, sure!"... Or maybe he thinks "I really want that money! But I'm not up for killing anyone today. Pass." The big difference is that the CN person doesn't have that "moral compass" to help him decide on what action to take. He doesn't care if it's good or evil. He doesn't care about the outcome at all. He only cares about himself and what he wants at that moment. And yes, for the record, I do see CN as the "insane" alignment. It's a [I]very[/I] difficult alignment to pull off, as D&D is a group-based game, and CN characters are whimsical in what they will do. The player has to basically play the character in a way that will, eventually, result in the party killing him or otherwise "not being with him". For CN, think uber-spoiled 7 year old; they want what they want, and they want it now...and they don't care how they get it. PS: Alignment is determined by the DM...not the player and not the characters "personal upbringing". If the DM says "Killing sentient life" is evil, then it's evil, regardless of the fact that the CE drow cleric lived in Erelhei-Cinlu and there "killing for fun and profit" was a noble and aspired virtue. ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]

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