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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6619309" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>From the fact that the GM is the final arbiter of the application of the rules in the game, it doesn't follow that the GM gets to determine exactly what everything is in the game, and certainly not unilaterally.</p><p></p><p>This goes to both mechanics - I don't think the GM is allowed to unilaterally decide that my wizard PC can't cast spells because spells are too broken - and story/fiction - I don't the the GM is allowed to unilaterally decide that my PC is an orphan who murdered his parents.</p><p></p><p>Even suppose I grant that, so what? The question of whether or not my PC is an orphan who murdered his parents is an objective matter of fact, too. That doesn't mean the GM gets to unilaterally decide that my PC is an orphan who murdered his parents.</p><p></p><p>If the GM unilaterally decides that my PC is an orphan who murdered his parents, and that therefore the whole village hates me an I'm on the run, I would have some problems with that.</p><p></p><p>I would go further, and say that, as a player, I am allowed to write some friends and family who are fond of me into my backstory.</p><p></p><p>If the GM decides that everyone in the gameworld reviles my PC for reasons that I, the player, think do not really make sense - especially if they're reasons based around abstract and game-mechanically-driven notions of abstruse concepts like <em>law</em> and <em>chaos</em> - I would have a problem with that too. I should be at least allowed to use the social resolution mechanics to persuade the NPCs that I'm right!</p><p></p><p>My default assumption would be that [MENTION=22779]Hussar[/MENTION] is correct, and that the player has no particular interest in what <em>chaotic</em> and <em>neutral</em> mean from the point of view of moral theorising, and much more interest in what they mean from the point of view of gameplay conventions: namely, it's a way of saying to the GM "Hand off my character! - I'm CN, and so whatever I choose to do is the thing that it's OK for me to do, because I'm CN and so prioritise personal choice over all else,"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6619309, member: 42582"] From the fact that the GM is the final arbiter of the application of the rules in the game, it doesn't follow that the GM gets to determine exactly what everything is in the game, and certainly not unilaterally. This goes to both mechanics - I don't think the GM is allowed to unilaterally decide that my wizard PC can't cast spells because spells are too broken - and story/fiction - I don't the the GM is allowed to unilaterally decide that my PC is an orphan who murdered his parents. Even suppose I grant that, so what? The question of whether or not my PC is an orphan who murdered his parents is an objective matter of fact, too. That doesn't mean the GM gets to unilaterally decide that my PC is an orphan who murdered his parents. If the GM unilaterally decides that my PC is an orphan who murdered his parents, and that therefore the whole village hates me an I'm on the run, I would have some problems with that. I would go further, and say that, as a player, I am allowed to write some friends and family who are fond of me into my backstory. If the GM decides that everyone in the gameworld reviles my PC for reasons that I, the player, think do not really make sense - especially if they're reasons based around abstract and game-mechanically-driven notions of abstruse concepts like [I]law[/I] and [I]chaos[/I] - I would have a problem with that too. I should be at least allowed to use the social resolution mechanics to persuade the NPCs that I'm right! My default assumption would be that [MENTION=22779]Hussar[/MENTION] is correct, and that the player has no particular interest in what [I]chaotic[/I] and [I]neutral[/I] mean from the point of view of moral theorising, and much more interest in what they mean from the point of view of gameplay conventions: namely, it's a way of saying to the GM "Hand off my character! - I'm CN, and so whatever I choose to do is the thing that it's OK for me to do, because I'm CN and so prioritise personal choice over all else," [/QUOTE]
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