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<blockquote data-quote="Mephista" data-source="post: 6620151" data-attributes="member: 6786252">Lying, in the D&amp;D verse, is generally considered a Chaotic attribute, irregardless of Good and Evil. Specifically, if the character is attempting to preserve beauty or liberty, that is generally considered to be a guiding principle of Chaotic Good. &nbsp;Lawful neutral. Forcing clerics to do what the ruler says is instead of following the tenants of their religion is not considered lawful good behavior. Nor is it tyranny as embodied by the LE planes. It is, however, resonating with the exercise of law and order as embodied by Mechanus, the ideal LN Outer Plane. Most gods of rulers are also LN, suggesting that rulers have to make hard choices and engage in necessary evils for the sake of promoting an ordered civilization.&nbsp;The difference, based off the information presented, is that the character can choose to do good things, but has established that he does do evil things.&nbsp;&nbsp; Not would, does.&nbsp;In the case above, the OP has said that the character in question does do evil - his argument that he's Neutral is that he can do good to &quot;balance it out.&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; Its not imagined, its an established part of the background.&nbsp; At least, no more imagined than the rest of the game.&nbsp;&nbsp; The two - contract killing and good acts - are not on the same level.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;Clearly, we've been reading different posts.&nbsp;&nbsp; We've flat out been told that he will willing kill people for the sake of greed.&nbsp; While its not explicitly spelled out, its implied that innocents are on the menu for the right price.&nbsp;Its those very goals that are what provide insight.&nbsp; To preserve life and beauty?&nbsp; CG.&nbsp; To maintain the Hierarchy?&nbsp; LE.&nbsp; For Justice?&nbsp; LG.&nbsp;&nbsp; For greed?&nbsp;&nbsp; NE.In D&amp;D, killing is not innately evil.&nbsp;&nbsp; However, murder for profit is.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mephista, post: 6620151, member: 6786252"] Lying, in the D&D verse, is generally considered a Chaotic attribute, irregardless of Good and Evil. Specifically, if the character is attempting to preserve beauty or liberty, that is generally considered to be a guiding principle of Chaotic Good. Lawful neutral. Forcing clerics to do what the ruler says is instead of following the tenants of their religion is not considered lawful good behavior. Nor is it tyranny as embodied by the LE planes. It is, however, resonating with the exercise of law and order as embodied by Mechanus, the ideal LN Outer Plane. Most gods of rulers are also LN, suggesting that rulers have to make hard choices and engage in necessary evils for the sake of promoting an ordered civilization. The difference, based off the information presented, is that the character can choose to do good things, but has established that he [I]does[/I] do evil things. Not would, does. In the case above, the OP has said that the character in question does do evil - his argument that he's Neutral is that he can do good to "balance it out." Its not imagined, its an established part of the background. At least, no more imagined than the rest of the game. The two - contract killing and good acts - are not on the same level. Clearly, we've been reading different posts. We've flat out been told that he will willing kill people for the sake of greed. While its not explicitly spelled out, its implied that innocents are on the menu for the right price. Its those very goals that are what provide insight. To preserve life and beauty? CG. To maintain the Hierarchy? LE. For Justice? LG. For greed? NE. In D&D, killing is not innately evil. However, murder for profit is. [/QUOTE]

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