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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kerrick" data-source="post: 1054190" data-attributes="member: 4722">We came across an interesting question last night while gaming - energy bypasses DR, but what about Evocation spells that don't do energy damage? There aren't any non-energy attack spells in the PHB (I looked), but we've got several in our campaign, like nail storm (fires a block of nails at the target), Fallstaff's shuriken storm (a single shuriken turns into a cloud of them), or Krevik's spinning blades (shoots one blade/2 levels). Do spells like this bypass DR, or do they do normal damage? I'm leaning toward the latter, since they don't have any energy descriptors. So we came up with a variant rule - if you use a different type of material for the material component, like a cold iron nail for nail storm, an adamantine shuriken for Fallstaff's shuriken storm, or a piece of a silver blade for Krevik's spinning blades, etc., then the spell effect is also that type of material. Since we just came up with it last night, it hasn't received any real playtesting, but we like it and I wanted to see what you guys thought of the idea. We could really use it, since we're going into an old dwarven mine/citadel that was overrun by demons a few hundred years ago, and we have no cold iron weapons in the party - we almost had two TPKs in a row from fighting a vrock and then two bodaks. If it weren't for the mage using alter weapon material (one of our own spells), we would have been toast.</blockquote>

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