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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8031131" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>First, let me state that I agree that some imagery and wording should be changed. I think the paragraph in the MM about the alignments being a default should have been called out more. Perhaps a section in the DMG where they discuss alternative versions. I'd be perfectly fine with that. I use orcs (or other evil humanoids) so rarely in my game it doesn't really matter much to me. </p><p></p><p>However "I'm not saying you're racist, but having that orcs* as always evil in your campaign is racist" is in fact calling someone a racist.</p><p></p><p>That and off and on with other threads the accusation has been direct and explicit. Add in people who don't have a problem with evil orcs have also been called various derogatory things in the name of "jokes". </p><p></p><p>This is from the post that got me sucked into this whole stupid debate:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px">I love it when regressive elements of a community are left behind in the dust, waving their angry, bitter little fist in the air like when I say no to a second dessert to my son <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />. They think they look like they are making a grand, noble stand-off, while they just look like Abe Simpson yelling at clouds while history forget about them. </p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>I may make jokes about how <em>I</em> yell at the kids to get off my lawn, but to paint anyone who disagrees with me as regressive children? Never. But it's something that happened repeatedly on the other threads. So, yeah, maybe I'm a bit over sensitive. Now get off my lawn. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /></p><p></p><p>If you want to continue this line of discussion, there's a separate thread.</p><p></p><p><em>*As a reminder orcs are a fictional creature that does not an can not exist.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8031131, member: 6801845"] First, let me state that I agree that some imagery and wording should be changed. I think the paragraph in the MM about the alignments being a default should have been called out more. Perhaps a section in the DMG where they discuss alternative versions. I'd be perfectly fine with that. I use orcs (or other evil humanoids) so rarely in my game it doesn't really matter much to me. However "I'm not saying you're racist, but having that orcs* as always evil in your campaign is racist" is in fact calling someone a racist. That and off and on with other threads the accusation has been direct and explicit. Add in people who don't have a problem with evil orcs have also been called various derogatory things in the name of "jokes". This is from the post that got me sucked into this whole stupid debate: [INDENT]I love it when regressive elements of a community are left behind in the dust, waving their angry, bitter little fist in the air like when I say no to a second dessert to my son :p. They think they look like they are making a grand, noble stand-off, while they just look like Abe Simpson yelling at clouds while history forget about them. [/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] I may make jokes about how [I]I[/I] yell at the kids to get off my lawn, but to paint anyone who disagrees with me as regressive children? Never. But it's something that happened repeatedly on the other threads. So, yeah, maybe I'm a bit over sensitive. Now get off my lawn. :P If you want to continue this line of discussion, there's a separate thread. [I]*As a reminder orcs are a fictional creature that does not an can not exist.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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