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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8031326" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>It didn't "become" it... it's been written from that perspective from the beginning. It was written by hetero-white-males for an audience that was primarily at the time hetero-white-males, and thus everything in it is geared towards the examples and understandings of hetero-white-males. Now other people could and certainly did absolutely play it, but it wasn't written to be representative <em>for</em> them necessarily.</p><p></p><p>Granted, this is all under the surface of the game and was never intentionally meant to be exclusionary by any means... but it's certainly a case of "You write what you know." Did Gygax et. al. know anything about the LGBTQIA experience back in the 70s when they wrote the game? My guess is probably very little. And thus little to nothing was written in the game that detailed or was representative of that experience. It's nothing to <em>blame</em> them for by any means... like I said, you write what you know. But it doesn't mean we can't now look at the game over the last 40 years with a critical eye and see where it wasn't representative of all types of people.</p><p></p><p>So if the game has steadily moved to be more representative over the years and editions... changing or adding new types of art, adding in characters from all parts of life, adjusting language that does not assist in being representative of all people... those will all move the identity away from how the beginnings of the game were written. In other words... away from the standard format that hetero-white-males have always seen written from their perspective. The game's identity WILL change from what players of the last 40 years will be used to. But hey... that's life. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 8031326, member: 7006"] It didn't "become" it... it's been written from that perspective from the beginning. It was written by hetero-white-males for an audience that was primarily at the time hetero-white-males, and thus everything in it is geared towards the examples and understandings of hetero-white-males. Now other people could and certainly did absolutely play it, but it wasn't written to be representative [I]for[/I] them necessarily. Granted, this is all under the surface of the game and was never intentionally meant to be exclusionary by any means... but it's certainly a case of "You write what you know." Did Gygax et. al. know anything about the LGBTQIA experience back in the 70s when they wrote the game? My guess is probably very little. And thus little to nothing was written in the game that detailed or was representative of that experience. It's nothing to [I]blame[/I] them for by any means... like I said, you write what you know. But it doesn't mean we can't now look at the game over the last 40 years with a critical eye and see where it wasn't representative of all types of people. So if the game has steadily moved to be more representative over the years and editions... changing or adding new types of art, adding in characters from all parts of life, adjusting language that does not assist in being representative of all people... those will all move the identity away from how the beginnings of the game were written. In other words... away from the standard format that hetero-white-males have always seen written from their perspective. The game's identity WILL change from what players of the last 40 years will be used to. But hey... that's life. :) [/QUOTE]
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