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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 1753370" data-attributes="member: 5143"><p>Actually, yes, I do read some boards and wonder what game they are playing, but it sounds like it is for a different reason than you.</p><p></p><p>It's normally due to so many house rules and 3rd party products that I don't recognize them anymore.</p><p></p><p>I realized this mostly when I was having a conversation with someone and he was pointing out that a PrC was severly broken. I said I had no idea what he was talking about, it was kind of weak. He then went on to tell me that if you combined enhancements on your weapon from 3 different companies products AND the special abilties of the PrC, you would end up with a threat range on your weapon of 2-20 or something like that. This was caused mostly because of abilities that used unnamed bonuses and were undercosted in 3rd party books. Of course, he blamed WOTC for bad writing.</p><p></p><p>I play D&D. You know, the game written by WOTC, with a bunch of rules that make up what the game is. There are some times where I've tried playing with complete strangers and they had SOO many house rules that I had no idea which weapon to use in combat, as I wasn't sure that when I swung it, I wouldn't find out that Falchions do half damage to oozes or that in their game Weapon Focus(Falchion) doesn't apply against undead.....or WORSE..."Sorry, you don't get to roll your own dice here, the DM does it for you."</p><p></p><p>I take the section of the DMG to heart, the one that says that you should think VERY carefully before you change ANYTHING in the book, because it has all been tested for balance. My game has been fun with the core rules the way they are.</p><p></p><p>You want to know the REASON I'm so obsessed with balance? Mostly because of a couple of years worth of playing 2nd Edition and watching a couple of my more powergaming oriented friends ruining the fun for everyone else at the table because of choosing the most powerful kits for their characters, and most powerful races, and when I tried to tell them no, having to listen to 2 hour long arguements about why they may be more powerful than everyone else in the party, but they promised they wouldn't abuse it, and they wouldn't even talk, they'd leave the role playing to everyone else if they could just be the most powerful combat characters.</p><p></p><p>I have friends that will sit down at the table and say "How did he just do 30 points of damage in one hit when I can only do 8? You mean there's a prestige class that lets you do that? Why did I take mine then, I never get to use its powers?"</p><p></p><p>Majoru Oakheart</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 1753370, member: 5143"] Actually, yes, I do read some boards and wonder what game they are playing, but it sounds like it is for a different reason than you. It's normally due to so many house rules and 3rd party products that I don't recognize them anymore. I realized this mostly when I was having a conversation with someone and he was pointing out that a PrC was severly broken. I said I had no idea what he was talking about, it was kind of weak. He then went on to tell me that if you combined enhancements on your weapon from 3 different companies products AND the special abilties of the PrC, you would end up with a threat range on your weapon of 2-20 or something like that. This was caused mostly because of abilities that used unnamed bonuses and were undercosted in 3rd party books. Of course, he blamed WOTC for bad writing. I play D&D. You know, the game written by WOTC, with a bunch of rules that make up what the game is. There are some times where I've tried playing with complete strangers and they had SOO many house rules that I had no idea which weapon to use in combat, as I wasn't sure that when I swung it, I wouldn't find out that Falchions do half damage to oozes or that in their game Weapon Focus(Falchion) doesn't apply against undead.....or WORSE..."Sorry, you don't get to roll your own dice here, the DM does it for you." I take the section of the DMG to heart, the one that says that you should think VERY carefully before you change ANYTHING in the book, because it has all been tested for balance. My game has been fun with the core rules the way they are. You want to know the REASON I'm so obsessed with balance? Mostly because of a couple of years worth of playing 2nd Edition and watching a couple of my more powergaming oriented friends ruining the fun for everyone else at the table because of choosing the most powerful kits for their characters, and most powerful races, and when I tried to tell them no, having to listen to 2 hour long arguements about why they may be more powerful than everyone else in the party, but they promised they wouldn't abuse it, and they wouldn't even talk, they'd leave the role playing to everyone else if they could just be the most powerful combat characters. I have friends that will sit down at the table and say "How did he just do 30 points of damage in one hit when I can only do 8? You mean there's a prestige class that lets you do that? Why did I take mine then, I never get to use its powers?" Majoru Oakheart [/QUOTE]
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