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<blockquote data-quote="Jürgen Hubert" data-source="post: 4118030" data-attributes="member: 7177"><p>Well, the closest White Wolf game with similar themes I can think of is Aberrant, but that setting has the flaw that there are a couple of über-NPCs lurking in the background who are likely to be more powerful than the PCs and risk overshadowing them.</p><p></p><p>Of course, there are some NPCs in the Exalted setting as well who are at least <em>initially</em> more powerful than the player characters. But unlike in Aberrant, they are supposed to be <em>antagonists</em> - people the PCs fight against and eventually defeat.</p><p></p><p>And Aberrant had an ongoing metaplot - you'd know what was "supposed to happen" in a few years (or even decades) down the road. Sure, individual GMs could ignore that, but it was still there and the published adventures reflect that.</p><p></p><p>Exalted, on the other hand, doesn't have a metaplot because the expectation is that as soon as the PCs are taking an active role in the wider world, they will cause major changes that are impossible to predict. Even sourcebooks and adventures that deal with possible "future timelines" explicitly say: "This is what will happen unless the PCs get involved." Note that it says <em>"involved"</em> instead of "trying to stop it" - they loom large enough to change everything they interact with unless they make a deliberate effort not to leave a trace.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You would be surprised. It's pretty much <em>impossible</em> to try to steer the PCs in a particular way - they are just so powerful that they can break most restraints. So pretty much all Exalted campaigns end up this way - the PCs make their plans, and the Storyteller characters are forced to react to them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jürgen Hubert, post: 4118030, member: 7177"] Well, the closest White Wolf game with similar themes I can think of is Aberrant, but that setting has the flaw that there are a couple of über-NPCs lurking in the background who are likely to be more powerful than the PCs and risk overshadowing them. Of course, there are some NPCs in the Exalted setting as well who are at least [i]initially[/i] more powerful than the player characters. But unlike in Aberrant, they are supposed to be [i]antagonists[/i] - people the PCs fight against and eventually defeat. And Aberrant had an ongoing metaplot - you'd know what was "supposed to happen" in a few years (or even decades) down the road. Sure, individual GMs could ignore that, but it was still there and the published adventures reflect that. Exalted, on the other hand, doesn't have a metaplot because the expectation is that as soon as the PCs are taking an active role in the wider world, they will cause major changes that are impossible to predict. Even sourcebooks and adventures that deal with possible "future timelines" explicitly say: "This is what will happen unless the PCs get involved." Note that it says [i]"involved"[/i] instead of "trying to stop it" - they loom large enough to change everything they interact with unless they make a deliberate effort not to leave a trace. You would be surprised. It's pretty much [i]impossible[/i] to try to steer the PCs in a particular way - they are just so powerful that they can break most restraints. So pretty much all Exalted campaigns end up this way - the PCs make their plans, and the Storyteller characters are forced to react to them. [/QUOTE]
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