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<blockquote data-quote="JonnyP71" data-source="post: 6996643" data-attributes="member: 6788862"><p>(Mine sold a magical Spear after UK5 as nobody was proficient with it)</p><p></p><p>Having been taken apart by the Perytons (yep - only 2 magic weapons in the party - they succeeded by grounding one with a lasso and repeating stabbing it with a magic dagger), then having had a tough time against the Phantom and Ghouls, they met the Wisps and ran away... as only 4 of the party were still conscious at this point (the other 4 negative but stable). They made camp outside, and went foraging in the bushes for food as they had just run out of rations - I asked them precisely where they were looking and they picked out the specific area of bushes containing the secret entrance... so I rolled a d6 to see if they spotted the secret entrance (I decided an Elf had a 1 in 6 chance of seeing it) - it came up with a 1 and they stumbled on the back way in! Then through sheer luck they found the Skulk very quickly (via a few pits)... meaning they missed the Presence, Xvarts and Wererat. It was a bit of an anti-climax, but the way they were going, I doubt they would have been successful any other way.</p><p></p><p>Their problem - they started with 4E/5E and are still adjusting to the fact the hit points are a very precious commodity. They've also learned the hard way about selling magic weapons.</p><p></p><p>UK4 didn't go much better - 1 of them died in the Derro lair, the Spectator carved them to shreds when they tried to rush it, and the Borzog caused carnage. No they didn't get the dragons' treasure, nor the Gnomes' stash at the back of the lizard cave - they did ok out of the Derro lair, and Piyarz's coffer though.</p><p></p><p>So, um, where were we... The Forest Oracle, what a pile of ......</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JonnyP71, post: 6996643, member: 6788862"] (Mine sold a magical Spear after UK5 as nobody was proficient with it) Having been taken apart by the Perytons (yep - only 2 magic weapons in the party - they succeeded by grounding one with a lasso and repeating stabbing it with a magic dagger), then having had a tough time against the Phantom and Ghouls, they met the Wisps and ran away... as only 4 of the party were still conscious at this point (the other 4 negative but stable). They made camp outside, and went foraging in the bushes for food as they had just run out of rations - I asked them precisely where they were looking and they picked out the specific area of bushes containing the secret entrance... so I rolled a d6 to see if they spotted the secret entrance (I decided an Elf had a 1 in 6 chance of seeing it) - it came up with a 1 and they stumbled on the back way in! Then through sheer luck they found the Skulk very quickly (via a few pits)... meaning they missed the Presence, Xvarts and Wererat. It was a bit of an anti-climax, but the way they were going, I doubt they would have been successful any other way. Their problem - they started with 4E/5E and are still adjusting to the fact the hit points are a very precious commodity. They've also learned the hard way about selling magic weapons. UK4 didn't go much better - 1 of them died in the Derro lair, the Spectator carved them to shreds when they tried to rush it, and the Borzog caused carnage. No they didn't get the dragons' treasure, nor the Gnomes' stash at the back of the lizard cave - they did ok out of the Derro lair, and Piyarz's coffer though. So, um, where were we... The Forest Oracle, what a pile of ...... [/QUOTE]
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