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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreenTengu" data-source="post: 6758483" data-attributes="member: 6777454">Okay, fair enough. My argument against Wisdom was a bit weak. It just seems like Wisdom tends to belong to nature-y spiritual types. In which case Goblin could be Dex and Wis since I feel like they would be more the perception, survival and animal handling breed living out there in the wild. In 3.5E they had Con and Dex, in 4E they had Con and Charisma. I figure a physical and a mental is a better balance. But Con and Wis is perfectly fair. Maybe even potentially consider the possibility of a subrace split even if there are no abilities attached to the subrace, just different environmental preferences, slightly different cultural norms and different skin colors and a different minor attribute.Honestly I was just trying to explain my reasoning, particularly for why I would ignore Dex and Stealth from 3.5e. As much to myself as anyone else.It was a mistake. I was going to give them a +1 to a physical attribute and a choice between either Intelligence or Wisdom as a +2, but honestly looking at the previous editions it doesn't seem terribly consistent which of them is the Intelligence and which is the Wisdom and justification for a physical stat increase seems weak, so I figure why not just go all mental. I neglected to delete the note that you could choose between Wisdom or Intelligence when I altered the line.I could see your reasoning with dividing the points that way, except most schools of magic don't contain any spells that target Wisdom saves while nearly all Charms and Illusions are Wisdom saves. Thus its not really protecting against only 1/4th of the spells that could target the Wisdom save, but in actuality it works against most spells that would target it.</blockquote>

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