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<blockquote data-quote="Testament" data-source="post: 2042638" data-attributes="member: 21833">Ring of Evasion will not get you into Fochlucan Lyrist, as you don't have the ability.&nbsp; You've been granted the ability, not the same thing.&nbsp; Just like having Gauntlets of Ogre Power doesn't allow the strength 12 wizard to take Power Attack.&nbsp; And the swift spells, while nice on paper, suck.&nbsp; They burn spell slots, and last for one round.&nbsp; Whoopwoopwoopwoopwoop.And the fact that you don't recognise Wild Shape as the best feature of the Druid shows just how UNqualified you are to be speaking on this matter.&nbsp; Full base attack becomes infinitely better when you change into a Dire Bear, and keep your ability to sling spells.&nbsp; You can't sling spells while Polymorphed, even with natural spell, read the feat again.&nbsp; It specifically calls out &quot;while wild shaped&quot;.ANYWAY, with the Troll dealt with...I've seen plenty of badly designed things (Hulking Hurler, Divine Metamagic, Racial Sub Levels), but on the whole, I'm not seeing the all-over raising of the power curve that Creep is supposed to bring.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Testament, post: 2042638, member: 21833"] Ring of Evasion will not get you into Fochlucan Lyrist, as you don't have the ability. You've been granted the ability, not the same thing. Just like having Gauntlets of Ogre Power doesn't allow the strength 12 wizard to take Power Attack. And the swift spells, while nice on paper, suck. They burn spell slots, and last for one round. Whoopwoopwoopwoopwoop. And the fact that you don't recognise Wild Shape as the best feature of the Druid shows just how UNqualified you are to be speaking on this matter. Full base attack becomes infinitely better when you change into a Dire Bear, and keep your ability to sling spells. You can't sling spells while Polymorphed, even with natural spell, read the feat again. It specifically calls out "while wild shaped". ANYWAY, with the Troll dealt with... I've seen plenty of badly designed things (Hulking Hurler, Divine Metamagic, Racial Sub Levels), but on the whole, I'm not seeing the all-over raising of the power curve that Creep is supposed to bring. [/QUOTE]

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