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<blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 2042949" data-attributes="member: 22882"><p>I've seen several PC frenzied berserkers - the tension and danger of the concept seem to appeal to players - but never an actual hulking hurler. The essentially prerequisite class of war hulk with its absolute requirement that the PC check out of all non-combat encounters turns them off. I'm actually a little surprised no one's wanted an Ur Priest; maybe the danger of ticking off the gods scares players off. I've seen a druid who went for maximum wildshaping (warshaper/nature's warrior/master of many forms) and he dwarfed the FBs in power, but even he was weaker than the core druids, clerics and wizards at higher levels.</p><p></p><p>Since those are probably the strongest PrCs around (where is the proverbial "messload?"), it doesn't seem like much of a problem. I've seen far more PCs go into flavorful substandard PrCs, or at least dip them for a characterful ability, than ever adopted the strongest ones. I've seen even more stay in their core classes; they usually end up the best of the lot.</p><p></p><p>Divine Metamagic is probably broken, particularly before it was clarified. I still hold that the Suddens not only aren't broken, they're just plain awful. I've never seen them be anything other than festering tumors of uselessness on character sheets. Most of them never get used at all, or get wasted on chump encounters. Pathetic wastes of spellcasters' limited feats.</p><p></p><p>Also, once again, you haven't mentioned a single thing that's NEW.</p><p></p><p>How can it be power CREEP if the strongest material was printed over a year ago?</p><p></p><p>How can power creep be a FACT of RPG sales if it hasn't happened since then?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoogleEmpMog, post: 2042949, member: 22882"] I've seen several PC frenzied berserkers - the tension and danger of the concept seem to appeal to players - but never an actual hulking hurler. The essentially prerequisite class of war hulk with its absolute requirement that the PC check out of all non-combat encounters turns them off. I'm actually a little surprised no one's wanted an Ur Priest; maybe the danger of ticking off the gods scares players off. I've seen a druid who went for maximum wildshaping (warshaper/nature's warrior/master of many forms) and he dwarfed the FBs in power, but even he was weaker than the core druids, clerics and wizards at higher levels. Since those are probably the strongest PrCs around (where is the proverbial "messload?"), it doesn't seem like much of a problem. I've seen far more PCs go into flavorful substandard PrCs, or at least dip them for a characterful ability, than ever adopted the strongest ones. I've seen even more stay in their core classes; they usually end up the best of the lot. Divine Metamagic is probably broken, particularly before it was clarified. I still hold that the Suddens not only aren't broken, they're just plain awful. I've never seen them be anything other than festering tumors of uselessness on character sheets. Most of them never get used at all, or get wasted on chump encounters. Pathetic wastes of spellcasters' limited feats. Also, once again, you haven't mentioned a single thing that's NEW. How can it be power CREEP if the strongest material was printed over a year ago? How can power creep be a FACT of RPG sales if it hasn't happened since then? [/QUOTE]
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