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<blockquote data-quote="DungeonMaster" data-source="post: 2044063" data-attributes="member: 27431"><p>I'll bite, there are tons of these examples though so I'll only list a few off the top of my head. </p><p></p><p>1) Is there a class that has come out that has been more powerful than a) one in the 3.5 Phb, b) a multiclass combo using classes and or PrCs the 3.5 PhB and DmG?</p><p><strong> Psion >> Sorceror, Warmage >> Sorceror </strong> </p><p></p><p>2) Is there a race that has come out that has been more powerful than one in the 3.5 Phb? (taking ECL into account)</p><p><strong> Warforged, Elan, anything with mental stats bonus like the underdark humans >> PHB races </strong> </p><p></p><p>3) Is there a PrC that has come out that has been more powerful than a) a straight class in the 3.5 Phb, or b) a multiclass combo using classes and or PrCs the 3.5 PhB and DmG?</p><p><strong> Arcane hierophant >> mystic theurge, Frenzied berzerker >> any core barbar </strong> </p><p></p><p>4) Is there a feat that has come out that makes a character more powerful than the best build of the most powerful class/multiclass using the core 3.5 books?</p><p><strong> Vow of poverty, Karmic Strike, split ray, etc.. </strong> </p><p></p><p>5) Is there a spell that has come out that makes a character more powerful than the best build of the most powerful class/multiclass using the core 3.5 books?</p><p><strong> Shivering touch, Streamers, Quill blast, Wraithstrike, etc... </strong> </p><p></p><p>6) Is there a Magic item that has come out that makes a character more powerful than the best build of the most powerful class/multiclass using the core 3.5 books?</p><p><strong> Rod of undead mastery doubles the number of undead controllable (10k only too...). Belt of magnificence from the miniature's handbook, Ankh of ascencion, etc... </strong></p><p><strong></strong> </p><p></p><p>7) Is there a combonation of any of the above that makes a character more powerful than the best build of the most powerful class/multiclass using the core 3.5 books?</p><p><strong> Well someone produce a "best build", let's say 20th level, using only core and I'll guarantee it can be trumped using core + non-core. </strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DungeonMaster, post: 2044063, member: 27431"] I'll bite, there are tons of these examples though so I'll only list a few off the top of my head. 1) Is there a class that has come out that has been more powerful than a) one in the 3.5 Phb, b) a multiclass combo using classes and or PrCs the 3.5 PhB and DmG? [B] Psion >> Sorceror, Warmage >> Sorceror [/B] 2) Is there a race that has come out that has been more powerful than one in the 3.5 Phb? (taking ECL into account) [B] Warforged, Elan, anything with mental stats bonus like the underdark humans >> PHB races [/B] 3) Is there a PrC that has come out that has been more powerful than a) a straight class in the 3.5 Phb, or b) a multiclass combo using classes and or PrCs the 3.5 PhB and DmG? [B] Arcane hierophant >> mystic theurge, Frenzied berzerker >> any core barbar [/B] 4) Is there a feat that has come out that makes a character more powerful than the best build of the most powerful class/multiclass using the core 3.5 books? [B] Vow of poverty, Karmic Strike, split ray, etc.. [/B] 5) Is there a spell that has come out that makes a character more powerful than the best build of the most powerful class/multiclass using the core 3.5 books? [B] Shivering touch, Streamers, Quill blast, Wraithstrike, etc... [/B] 6) Is there a Magic item that has come out that makes a character more powerful than the best build of the most powerful class/multiclass using the core 3.5 books? [B] Rod of undead mastery doubles the number of undead controllable (10k only too...). Belt of magnificence from the miniature's handbook, Ankh of ascencion, etc... [/B] 7) Is there a combonation of any of the above that makes a character more powerful than the best build of the most powerful class/multiclass using the core 3.5 books? [B] Well someone produce a "best build", let's say 20th level, using only core and I'll guarantee it can be trumped using core + non-core. [/B] [/QUOTE]
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