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<blockquote data-quote="Markn" data-source="post: 2044632" data-attributes="member: 21827"><p><strong>Power Creep</strong></p><p></p><p>I think there is without a doubt a sizeable increase in power creep in the splatbooks. Of course, when I DM I reserve the right to disallow anything I don't like and that works just fine. On the flipside, I am glad that WotC is willing to try new things such as new classes, spells and so forth. What disappoints me the most is the sloppiness of the books and/or the design/wording of certain spells, feats, etc. With simple clean up on wording some of the power creep could be minimized (as well as the questions that go along with the spell or feat). An example would be whirling blade. A rogue/wizard with this spell could potentially get a sneak attack on every opponent he targets since it is a melee attack. The range is 60' long which potentially could be a lot of bad guys sliced down. Now in our campaign we have house ruled that only the 1st person gets sneak attacked as the rogue/wizards views of enemies after the first are partially blocked by the first enemy and thus does not get sneak attack. But I mean come on, if you are going to design a spell like that, take those considerations in. The splatbooks are designed with only 1 class in mind for the most part. Players however don't think like that (nor DM's for that matter). </p><p></p><p>Once again, I challenge those who don't think power creep exists to examine their own campaigns (or ones they have been a part of in the past) and see if there were certain spells that everyone took with a particular class. Druids, IMO have far more potent and versatile spells that can affect a wider range of circumstances with the splatbooks than what they have in the PHB. Is this good? In some cases. Is it bad? IMO, in a lot of cases. I see my party's druid acting way different than most other druids I have seen because of these spells. I have a cleric in the same party that looks at the warmage that is in the group and he says - You lead, I'll back you up. The warmage has an answer for everything they fight. The cleric player for the most part sticks to PHB spells while the warmage player seeks every new spell in existance to throw at the enemy. Different playing styles for sure, but also massive differences in power curve (I will grant they do have different roles in the party but there really is a difference in the power level between the two).</p><p></p><p>So please, lets hear some examples...I know they exist.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Markn, post: 2044632, member: 21827"] [b]Power Creep[/b] I think there is without a doubt a sizeable increase in power creep in the splatbooks. Of course, when I DM I reserve the right to disallow anything I don't like and that works just fine. On the flipside, I am glad that WotC is willing to try new things such as new classes, spells and so forth. What disappoints me the most is the sloppiness of the books and/or the design/wording of certain spells, feats, etc. With simple clean up on wording some of the power creep could be minimized (as well as the questions that go along with the spell or feat). An example would be whirling blade. A rogue/wizard with this spell could potentially get a sneak attack on every opponent he targets since it is a melee attack. The range is 60' long which potentially could be a lot of bad guys sliced down. Now in our campaign we have house ruled that only the 1st person gets sneak attacked as the rogue/wizards views of enemies after the first are partially blocked by the first enemy and thus does not get sneak attack. But I mean come on, if you are going to design a spell like that, take those considerations in. The splatbooks are designed with only 1 class in mind for the most part. Players however don't think like that (nor DM's for that matter). Once again, I challenge those who don't think power creep exists to examine their own campaigns (or ones they have been a part of in the past) and see if there were certain spells that everyone took with a particular class. Druids, IMO have far more potent and versatile spells that can affect a wider range of circumstances with the splatbooks than what they have in the PHB. Is this good? In some cases. Is it bad? IMO, in a lot of cases. I see my party's druid acting way different than most other druids I have seen because of these spells. I have a cleric in the same party that looks at the warmage that is in the group and he says - You lead, I'll back you up. The warmage has an answer for everything they fight. The cleric player for the most part sticks to PHB spells while the warmage player seeks every new spell in existance to throw at the enemy. Different playing styles for sure, but also massive differences in power curve (I will grant they do have different roles in the party but there really is a difference in the power level between the two). So please, lets hear some examples...I know they exist. [/QUOTE]
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