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<blockquote data-quote="Davin" data-source="post: 1359827" data-attributes="member: 1183">Ok, I'm looking at the 3.5 tables and seeing additional inconsistencies...Plane Sailing has come up with a formula pattern that says that the XP award values can be figured off the number on the main diagonal (where PL = CR) by multiplying it by 1.5 to get the number to its right and dividing it by 1.5 (multiplying by .6667) to get the number on its left.&nbsp; Further values are computed with similar extensions.However, it looks to me like this only works for levels 1-3 and 5-19.&nbsp; As we've noted before, the multiplier progression seems to be off for level 4.&nbsp; But while looking at higher levels, it also seems to be off in the identical way for levels 20 (not 21) &amp; up!Ok, let me see if I can explain what I'm seeing...&nbsp; In the table below, I've listed 6 column multipliers for each row (of levels 1-40).&nbsp; Each fraction shown is the multiplier used to get from one CR's value to the adjacent CR's value.&nbsp; All fractions are shown as individual left-to-right multipliers rather than cumulatively from the middle out.&nbsp; In addition, this is actually computed along the main diagonal, but realigned into vertical columns for easier reading.&nbsp; The top of each column is labelled with the relative (to level) CR columns used to compute the ratio.&nbsp; For example, level 6 column &quot;+1&gt;+2&quot; is shown as &quot;4/3&quot;, meaning that for level 6, CR 8 (6+2) is 4/3rds times CR 7 (6+1).&nbsp; Does that make sense?[CODE]&nbsp; &nbsp; -3&gt;-2 -2&gt;-1 -1&gt;+0 +0&gt;+1 +1&gt;+2 +2&gt;+3 &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; *&nbsp; &nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; *&nbsp; &nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; *&nbsp; &nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp;&nbsp; *&nbsp; &nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp; 9&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp;10&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp;11&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp;12&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp;13&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp;14&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp;15&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp;16&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp;17&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp;18&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp;19&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp;20&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;21&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;22&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;23&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;24&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;25&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;26&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;27&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;28&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;29&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;30&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;31&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;32&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;33&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;34&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;35&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;36&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;37&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp;38&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;39&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;40&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp;&nbsp; 4/3&nbsp;&nbsp; 3/2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; [/CODE]Ok, now that the multipliers are simplified and lined up, look where they change.&nbsp; Levels 1-3 and 5-19 are all in one pattern, and levels 4 and 20+ are all in another pattern.&nbsp; (Note the +0&gt;+1 column where the change occurs - the multipliers are all shifted over by one.)&nbsp; These patterns repeat consistently beyond what I've shown here.&nbsp; The question now becomes &quot;why is it like this???&quot;Who/where would be the best person/place to write to and report/complain/ask about this?P.S.&nbsp; I think I've also found a true typo in the ELH table.&nbsp; Level=37,CR=35 is listed as 5500 when it should be 5550 (understandably easy to overlook).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Davin, post: 1359827, member: 1183"] Ok, I'm looking at the 3.5 tables and seeing additional inconsistencies... Plane Sailing has come up with a formula pattern that says that the XP award values can be figured off the number on the main diagonal (where PL = CR) by multiplying it by 1.5 to get the number to its right and dividing it by 1.5 (multiplying by .6667) to get the number on its left. Further values are computed with similar extensions. However, it looks to me like this only works for levels 1-3 and 5-19. As we've noted before, the multiplier progression seems to be off for level 4. But while looking at higher levels, it also seems to be off in the identical way for levels 20 (not 21) & up! Ok, let me see if I can explain what I'm seeing... In the table below, I've listed 6 column multipliers for each row (of levels 1-40). Each fraction shown is the multiplier used to get from one CR's value to the adjacent CR's value. All fractions are shown as individual left-to-right multipliers rather than cumulatively from the middle out. In addition, this is actually computed along the main diagonal, but realigned into vertical columns for easier reading. The top of each column is labelled with the relative (to level) CR columns used to compute the ratio. For example, level 6 column "+1>+2" is shown as "4/3", meaning that for level 6, CR 8 (6+2) is 4/3rds times CR 7 (6+1). Does that make sense? [CODE] -3>-2 -2>-1 -1>+0 +0>+1 +1>+2 +2>+3 1 * 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 2 * 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 3 * 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 4 * 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 5 3/2 4/3 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 6 3/2 4/3 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 7 3/2 4/3 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 8 3/2 4/3 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 9 3/2 4/3 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 10 3/2 4/3 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 11 3/2 4/3 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 12 3/2 4/3 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 13 3/2 4/3 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 14 3/2 4/3 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 15 3/2 4/3 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 16 3/2 4/3 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 17 3/2 4/3 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 18 3/2 4/3 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 19 3/2 4/3 3/2 3/2 4/3 3/2 20 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 21 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 22 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 23 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 24 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 25 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 26 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 27 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 28 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 29 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 30 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 31 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 32 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 33 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 34 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 35 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 36 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 37 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 38 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 3/2 39 3/2 4/3 3/2 4/3 40 3/2 4/3 3/2 [/CODE] Ok, now that the multipliers are simplified and lined up, look where they change. Levels 1-3 and 5-19 are all in one pattern, and levels 4 and 20+ are all in another pattern. (Note the +0>+1 column where the change occurs - the multipliers are all shifted over by one.) These patterns repeat consistently beyond what I've shown here. The question now becomes "why is it like this???" Who/where would be the best person/place to write to and report/complain/ask about this? P.S. I think I've also found a true typo in the ELH table. Level=37,CR=35 is listed as 5500 when it should be 5550 (understandably easy to overlook). [/QUOTE]

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