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<blockquote data-quote="Wik" data-source="post: 5369710" data-attributes="member: 40177">Sorry.&nbsp; You can't say Star Wars d20 is just as much D&amp;D as BECMI.&nbsp; They are entirely different beasts.&nbsp; However, I agree with you that including D&amp;D Basic in the revision schedule was kind of deceptful.Yes, but it was all house rules.&nbsp; It was not an &quot;expansion&quot; for the game, so much as a wonderful book of options.&nbsp; For the record, it is is my favourite wotc book, and I can't wait until they do one for 4e.You're confused on this.&nbsp; You're thinking the poster was talking about the black cover reprints (the ones with the &quot;this is not third edition!&nbsp; There, everyone can rest easy&quot; prologue that always cracks me up).&nbsp; What was actually being referred to was &quot;2e's Essentials&quot; in a sense - Skills and Powers, Combat and Tactics, High Level Campaigns, and Spells and Magic.&nbsp; These books drastically altered the way the game was played, and are very much 2.5E.&nbsp; This, by the way, leaves us with:OD&amp;D AD&amp;D 1e&nbsp;&nbsp; Unearthed Arcana + Survival GuidesAD&amp;D 2e&nbsp;&nbsp; Skills and Powers &amp; FriendsD&amp;D 3e&nbsp;&nbsp; 3.5eD&amp;D 4e&nbsp;&nbsp; D&amp;D EssentialsSomeone else can supply the years each came out.&nbsp; But the fact is, it's still pretty frequent revision.&nbsp; First, and don't take this too much as a criticism, I think people would respond to what you're saying if you use fewer run-on sentences.&nbsp; This bit quoted is all one sentence, and it makes you come off as a breathless, ranting sort of fellow.&nbsp; A quick once-over before posting to clarify your idea is always helpful.Anyways, onto the point at hand, I think Unearthed Arcana, when coupled with the two Survival Guides, really changed the way the game was played and perceived - which to me, constitutes being considered a &quot;revision&quot; in a way that splat books never will.I agree that if you use the magic book w/ reserve feats and bo9s in 3e, you would be well suited to be considered playing a new version of the game - those books make D&amp;D drastically different.This is the part I don't get.&nbsp; You're calling other posters &quot;blind&quot; when they are posting well-reasoned arguments to your posts, which are promptly ignored as you type furiously back.&nbsp; This all makes me think that they're not blind... you're deaf.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wik, post: 5369710, member: 40177"] Sorry. You can't say Star Wars d20 is just as much D&D as BECMI. They are entirely different beasts. However, I agree with you that including D&D Basic in the revision schedule was kind of deceptful. Yes, but it was all house rules. It was not an "expansion" for the game, so much as a wonderful book of options. For the record, it is is my favourite wotc book, and I can't wait until they do one for 4e. You're confused on this. You're thinking the poster was talking about the black cover reprints (the ones with the "this is not third edition! There, everyone can rest easy" prologue that always cracks me up). What was actually being referred to was "2e's Essentials" in a sense - Skills and Powers, Combat and Tactics, High Level Campaigns, and Spells and Magic. These books drastically altered the way the game was played, and are very much 2.5E. This, by the way, leaves us with: OD&D AD&D 1e Unearthed Arcana + Survival Guides AD&D 2e Skills and Powers & Friends D&D 3e 3.5e D&D 4e D&D Essentials Someone else can supply the years each came out. But the fact is, it's still pretty frequent revision. First, and don't take this too much as a criticism, I think people would respond to what you're saying if you use fewer run-on sentences. This bit quoted is all one sentence, and it makes you come off as a breathless, ranting sort of fellow. A quick once-over before posting to clarify your idea is always helpful. Anyways, onto the point at hand, I think Unearthed Arcana, when coupled with the two Survival Guides, really changed the way the game was played and perceived - which to me, constitutes being considered a "revision" in a way that splat books never will. I agree that if you use the magic book w/ reserve feats and bo9s in 3e, you would be well suited to be considered playing a new version of the game - those books make D&D drastically different. This is the part I don't get. You're calling other posters "blind" when they are posting well-reasoned arguments to your posts, which are promptly ignored as you type furiously back. This all makes me think that they're not blind... you're deaf. [/QUOTE]

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