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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vrecknidj" data-source="post: 1794658" data-attributes="member: 7301">I can think of a few off the top of my head.  The most notable are when one of the occupiers of a square is helpless.  Another is when one is a mount.  I suppose another is when one is diminutive or smaller (relative to medium or larger)--this last one may not be an official rule, but I find it hard to believe that the rules forbid an ogre and a flea from being in the same region.Okay, I brought this up because I'm curious about the mount issue.  I know that we could go off on another tanget (invisible or incorporeal creatures), but I want to stick to this one.If I jump on a horse, I can end my turn there because riding a mount is an exception to the rule.  What if the horse doesn't want me on it?  Do we make opposed grapple checks?What if the "mount" is a frost giant or a blue dragon, or whatever?  Specifically, what if it doesn't want to be my mount?In the case of intelligent beings, it seems clear that the issue needs to be resolved, because the extant rules forbid going through the initiative order with two creatures in the same space the whole time.But, if I charm a giant into being a mount, or use some other means, doesn't this qualify as an exception?Dave</blockquote>