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Exceptions to the "can't occupy the same square" rule
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<blockquote data-quote="smetzger" data-source="post: 1794799" data-attributes="member: 1230"><p>Grappling, Overrun, I also believe that ally's can share the same 'space' using the squeezing rules. Plus there are some monster special abilities that can fit this like the Air Elementals Whirlwind, the Water Elementals Vortex, and other creatures that have Swallow Whole</p><p></p><p>You can move through an ally's space and tumble through an enemies space and Creatures with Trample can move through your space.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thats how I have handled it in the past. I think the grappling rules can be used anytime you enter a hostile creatures space.</p><p></p><p>If the creature is willing and able to be a mount I see no problem with allowing the creatures to use the 'share same space' exception for mounts. If it is not willing then grapple checks are in order. </p><p></p><p>House Rule warning...</p><p>You may want to limit a creatures grappling options by applying logic. For example by the rules a horse can pin a humanoid. But logically this requires an exceptional situation or unnatural movement(i.e. rolling on the ground) by the horse. It would not be unreasonable to restrict creatures, who have no apparent means of holding on to something, from making a Pin.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smetzger, post: 1794799, member: 1230"] Grappling, Overrun, I also believe that ally's can share the same 'space' using the squeezing rules. Plus there are some monster special abilities that can fit this like the Air Elementals Whirlwind, the Water Elementals Vortex, and other creatures that have Swallow Whole You can move through an ally's space and tumble through an enemies space and Creatures with Trample can move through your space. Thats how I have handled it in the past. I think the grappling rules can be used anytime you enter a hostile creatures space. If the creature is willing and able to be a mount I see no problem with allowing the creatures to use the 'share same space' exception for mounts. If it is not willing then grapple checks are in order. House Rule warning... You may want to limit a creatures grappling options by applying logic. For example by the rules a horse can pin a humanoid. But logically this requires an exceptional situation or unnatural movement(i.e. rolling on the ground) by the horse. It would not be unreasonable to restrict creatures, who have no apparent means of holding on to something, from making a Pin. [/QUOTE]
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