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<blockquote data-quote="ForbidenMaster" data-source="post: 4234969" data-attributes="member: 63213"><p>But the argument for the necessity is that the first book is gimped. My point is that the first books isnt gimped and that you are getting a fully fledged product and expecting anything more on the basis of "I want it" is ludicrous.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: There is nothing what so ever that requires you to buy the MM2. The only reason to buy the MM2 is to have more monsters. Lets say they had lightning Archons and they left out creature X, people would complain about the MM not having creature X. Its really simple, there is only so much they can put in any given product. You want a lightning archon, fine:</p><p></p><p>Lightning Archon Rimehammer Level 19 Soldier</p><p>Medium elemental humanoid (lightning) XP 2,400</p><p>Initiative +15 Senses Perception +12</p><p>Static Discharge (Lightning) aura 1; enemies in this aura take 1d6 damage appon entering it.</p><p>HP 185; Bloodied 92</p><p>AC 35; Fortitude 35, Refl ex 32, Will 31</p><p>Immune disease, poison; Resist 30 Lightning</p><p>Speed 6</p><p>m Short Spear (standard; at-will) ✦ Lightning, Weapon</p><p>+25 vs. AC; 2d6 + 7 damage plus 1d6 Lightning damage, and the</p><p>target is slowed (save ends). Against a slowed target, the</p><p>rimehammer deals an extra 2d6 Lightning damage.</p><p>Alignment Chaotic evil Languages Primordial</p><p>Str 24 (+16) Dex 18 (+13) Wis 16 (+12)</p><p>Con 25 (+16) Int 14 (+11) Cha 15 (+11)</p><p>Equipment plate armor, Short Spear</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ForbidenMaster, post: 4234969, member: 63213"] But the argument for the necessity is that the first book is gimped. My point is that the first books isnt gimped and that you are getting a fully fledged product and expecting anything more on the basis of "I want it" is ludicrous. EDIT: There is nothing what so ever that requires you to buy the MM2. The only reason to buy the MM2 is to have more monsters. Lets say they had lightning Archons and they left out creature X, people would complain about the MM not having creature X. Its really simple, there is only so much they can put in any given product. You want a lightning archon, fine: Lightning Archon Rimehammer Level 19 Soldier Medium elemental humanoid (lightning) XP 2,400 Initiative +15 Senses Perception +12 Static Discharge (Lightning) aura 1; enemies in this aura take 1d6 damage appon entering it. HP 185; Bloodied 92 AC 35; Fortitude 35, Refl ex 32, Will 31 Immune disease, poison; Resist 30 Lightning Speed 6 m Short Spear (standard; at-will) ✦ Lightning, Weapon +25 vs. AC; 2d6 + 7 damage plus 1d6 Lightning damage, and the target is slowed (save ends). Against a slowed target, the rimehammer deals an extra 2d6 Lightning damage. Alignment Chaotic evil Languages Primordial Str 24 (+16) Dex 18 (+13) Wis 16 (+12) Con 25 (+16) Int 14 (+11) Cha 15 (+11) Equipment plate armor, Short Spear [/QUOTE]
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