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<blockquote data-quote="Khaalis" data-source="post: 4195692" data-attributes="member: 2167">I believe they only use this wording because it is not a Gish as defined by 3X (a character with near full to full BAB and 9th level spells). Everything we have heard about the Swordmage sounds more gish to me than a Fighter with 4 feats dumped into learning a few wizard tricks.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/1.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":1:" title="One&nbsp; &nbsp; :1:" data-shortname=":1:" /> Its an Arcane defender.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/2.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":2:" title="Two&nbsp; &nbsp; :2:" data-shortname=":2:" /> It uses magic to fight better.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/3.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":3:" title="Three&nbsp; &nbsp; :3:" data-shortname=":3:" /> It uses spells of armoring and protection instead of wearing heavy armor.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/4.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":4:" title="Four&nbsp; &nbsp; :4:" data-shortname=":4:" /> They're defenders, and they need hit points and AC comparable to fighters, and get there by using persistent magic effects.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/5.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":5:" title="Five&nbsp; &nbsp; :5:" data-shortname=":5:" /> They use combat-focused &quot;immediate&quot; spells and &quot;move&quot; spells (such as short-range teleports and transpositions, as well as instant shield-like effects, and a short-duration, self-only strength spell, and one that wreathes a sword in magical flames).Overall, sounds very gish to me, since this is the kind of spells a gish specialized with in 3X anyway.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Khaalis, post: 4195692, member: 2167"] I believe they only use this wording because it is not a Gish as defined by 3X (a character with near full to full BAB and 9th level spells). Everything we have heard about the Swordmage sounds more gish to me than a Fighter with 4 feats dumped into learning a few wizard tricks. :1: Its an Arcane defender. :2: It uses magic to fight better. :3: It uses spells of armoring and protection instead of wearing heavy armor. :4: They're defenders, and they need hit points and AC comparable to fighters, and get there by using persistent magic effects. :5: They use combat-focused "immediate" spells and "move" spells (such as short-range teleports and transpositions, as well as instant shield-like effects, and a short-duration, self-only strength spell, and one that wreathes a sword in magical flames). Overall, sounds very gish to me, since this is the kind of spells a gish specialized with in 3X anyway. [/QUOTE]

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