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<blockquote data-quote="katahn" data-source="post: 4195736" data-attributes="member: 65004"><p>Actually it was 3e that was the kick in the pants, not 4e. Although 4e isn't necessarily making it much better it certainly isn't making it worse. 3e multiclassing simply did not work for any caster multiclasses other than possibly some combinations of cleric/melee or druid/melee. Heavy restrictions on caster level and failure with armored arcane spellcasting and limited to lower level spells that were easier for higher level things to save against all made a lot of the traditional multiclassing tropes a fast way to a gimped character.</p><p></p><p>4e, even with limited feat-based MCing, will absolutely handle the fighter/arcane caster trope considerably better than 3e ever could. That is, better than 3e could without resorting to the over-used workaround of prestige classing. I lost count of the number of 3e prestige classes that were designed around fighter/wizard and included special abilities to reduce arcane spell failure for casting in armor...</p><p></p><p>So criticize 4e multiclassing all you like, but please don't pretend that 3e multiclassing was somehow better for anything other than fighter/rogue or melee/CoDzilla combinations without inventing whole new classes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="katahn, post: 4195736, member: 65004"] Actually it was 3e that was the kick in the pants, not 4e. Although 4e isn't necessarily making it much better it certainly isn't making it worse. 3e multiclassing simply did not work for any caster multiclasses other than possibly some combinations of cleric/melee or druid/melee. Heavy restrictions on caster level and failure with armored arcane spellcasting and limited to lower level spells that were easier for higher level things to save against all made a lot of the traditional multiclassing tropes a fast way to a gimped character. 4e, even with limited feat-based MCing, will absolutely handle the fighter/arcane caster trope considerably better than 3e ever could. That is, better than 3e could without resorting to the over-used workaround of prestige classing. I lost count of the number of 3e prestige classes that were designed around fighter/wizard and included special abilities to reduce arcane spell failure for casting in armor... So criticize 4e multiclassing all you like, but please don't pretend that 3e multiclassing was somehow better for anything other than fighter/rogue or melee/CoDzilla combinations without inventing whole new classes. [/QUOTE]
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