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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 4196873" data-attributes="member: 2209">Actually there are a few more balance points. The 6/6 F/Mu does not have 6th level fighter hp. He gets half the F HD and half the MU HD in 1e and in 2e he rolls both HD and averages the results. So he's got about 6d7 HD under either method instead of the 7d10 of the straight fighter. So 24 hp vs. 38.5 before any con bonuses. Down by more than 1/3 in hp. At 7th level the fighter also gains his first bonus attack every other round going at 3/2.As a fighter MU he also can't cast in armor (in 2e they have that elven mithril chain exception), so his AC is also likely not as good as the straight fighter who will likely be wearing at least plate mail at 7th level.As a wizard he gives up 1 caster level, his highest level spell, and a second level spell (he has 8 total spells a day versus 10 of the straight caster).Here are the xp charts up to 8thMage &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2,500&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 5,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 10,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 20,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 40,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 60,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 90,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 2,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 8,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 16,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 32,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 64,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 125,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; So if you take a number like 80,000 xp that would give us your 6/6 F/M or the 7 F or the 7 M. Good guess. I always guestimated old edition multiclassers as about a level behind straight class characters, though there are some wonky spots due to the wierd advancements.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 4196873, member: 2209"] Actually there are a few more balance points. The 6/6 F/Mu does not have 6th level fighter hp. He gets half the F HD and half the MU HD in 1e and in 2e he rolls both HD and averages the results. So he's got about 6d7 HD under either method instead of the 7d10 of the straight fighter. So 24 hp vs. 38.5 before any con bonuses. Down by more than 1/3 in hp. At 7th level the fighter also gains his first bonus attack every other round going at 3/2. As a fighter MU he also can't cast in armor (in 2e they have that elven mithril chain exception), so his AC is also likely not as good as the straight fighter who will likely be wearing at least plate mail at 7th level. As a wizard he gives up 1 caster level, his highest level spell, and a second level spell (he has 8 total spells a day versus 10 of the straight caster). Here are the xp charts up to 8th Mage 1 0 2 2,500 3 5,000 4 10,000 5 20,000 6 40,000 7 60,000 8 90,000 1 0 2 2,000 3 4,000 4 8,000 5 16,000 6 32,000 7 64,000 8 125,000 So if you take a number like 80,000 xp that would give us your 6/6 F/M or the 7 F or the 7 M. Good guess. I always guestimated old edition multiclassers as about a level behind straight class characters, though there are some wonky spots due to the wierd advancements. [/QUOTE]

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