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<blockquote data-quote="Lurker37" data-source="post: 4197123" data-attributes="member: 9522"><p>This is starting to sound like the hysteria surrounding the expected overpoweredness of the monk class pre 3.0. We all know how that ended.</p><p></p><p>This excerpt is a marketing exercise. It deliberately raises more questions than it answers, because otherwise no-one would need to buy the rules. As a result, we now have questions we want answers to. Some posters here playtested the rules, so can give informed opinions on some of those answers, but are restricted by NDAs. They've tried to tell us what they can.</p><p></p><p>A playtester has already stated that the powers are balanced in the context of their original class, but grant more power to other classes when they use a multiclass feat to get them. These cross-class powers <strong>are</strong> more powerful <em>for the multiclass character cherry picking them</em> because they can grant a tactical option the original class lacks entirely. That granting this without making it cost a feat each pick would result in character more powerful than the single class character, so the feat cost is required to restore the balance. In other words, an original-class power plus a feat adds roughly as much to that class's power as swapping both for a well-chosen power from another class.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, we don't know how powerful feats are in 4E. We have reason to suspect that characters may get more of them, but they will be less powerful. We just can't be sure.</p><p></p><p>And finally all we know about multiclassing instead of taking a Paragon path is that it is possible.</p><p></p><p>So really, most of us are debating over speculation and guesswork. ( And thoroughly enjoying it... wait - that's not my point! )</p><p></p><p>So until such time as we have the full ruleset in our hands, our very best indication of how well multiclassing works is the comments of the playtester, and especially his rebuttal of certain assumptions posted here.</p><p></p><p>I just hope he hasn't gotten himself into trouble for revealing too much.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lurker37, post: 4197123, member: 9522"] This is starting to sound like the hysteria surrounding the expected overpoweredness of the monk class pre 3.0. We all know how that ended. This excerpt is a marketing exercise. It deliberately raises more questions than it answers, because otherwise no-one would need to buy the rules. As a result, we now have questions we want answers to. Some posters here playtested the rules, so can give informed opinions on some of those answers, but are restricted by NDAs. They've tried to tell us what they can. A playtester has already stated that the powers are balanced in the context of their original class, but grant more power to other classes when they use a multiclass feat to get them. These cross-class powers [b]are[/b] more powerful [i]for the multiclass character cherry picking them[/i] because they can grant a tactical option the original class lacks entirely. That granting this without making it cost a feat each pick would result in character more powerful than the single class character, so the feat cost is required to restore the balance. In other words, an original-class power plus a feat adds roughly as much to that class's power as swapping both for a well-chosen power from another class. Furthermore, we don't know how powerful feats are in 4E. We have reason to suspect that characters may get more of them, but they will be less powerful. We just can't be sure. And finally all we know about multiclassing instead of taking a Paragon path is that it is possible. So really, most of us are debating over speculation and guesswork. ( And thoroughly enjoying it... wait - that's not my point! ) So until such time as we have the full ruleset in our hands, our very best indication of how well multiclassing works is the comments of the playtester, and especially his rebuttal of certain assumptions posted here. I just hope he hasn't gotten himself into trouble for revealing too much. [/QUOTE]
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