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<blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 4198230" data-attributes="member: 59248"><p>*waves to the Lizard*</p><p></p><p>To be fair, we don't know whether you can get the power-switching feats multiple times -- I think the 1/3 number actually assumes you can only get them once (9 powers by 10th level, of which 3 are switched). OTOH, we don't know what multiclassing is like past 10th level ("true" multiclassing starts at 11th; these -are- training feats, and we don't know if there are Paragon-level muticlassing feats as well), and I'd guess that you can take these feats multiple times anyway (which means that by 20th level, you could actually have all your powers traded out if you wanted--you have 11-12 feats by then, which is about as many powers as you have).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Pretty much. I'd guess that some builds will be more feat-intensive, but for many, two feats for a 1/day bomb will be a no-brainer.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope. We can guess (bonus powers from the other class, class features widened to or towards the "full" base features for the class, -maybe- the ability to pick powers from either class on level, thus getting to retrain power switching feats), but we've not gotten the full skinny by any means.</p><p></p><p>Certainly, if there's a "true" 50/50 split, it is likely to be here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Very much agreed that the "one class limit" is an acknowledgement that these feats are overpowered; if they were balanced, there'd be no reason to have the limit. I'm guessing a fix will happen later. But you definately -can- drop a multiclassing feat and replace it with a different multiclassing feat via retraining later -- why wouldn't you be able to? Hell, given the power switching feats and the way they work, you could even switch over a whole power set at a new level (prediction: eratta saying that if you do this, you -must- switch over all your power switching feats; you can't keep powers from the old class! But I doubt this will be clear except by inference in the printed rules; it's too much of a corner case).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mneme, post: 4198230, member: 59248"] *waves to the Lizard* To be fair, we don't know whether you can get the power-switching feats multiple times -- I think the 1/3 number actually assumes you can only get them once (9 powers by 10th level, of which 3 are switched). OTOH, we don't know what multiclassing is like past 10th level ("true" multiclassing starts at 11th; these -are- training feats, and we don't know if there are Paragon-level muticlassing feats as well), and I'd guess that you can take these feats multiple times anyway (which means that by 20th level, you could actually have all your powers traded out if you wanted--you have 11-12 feats by then, which is about as many powers as you have). Pretty much. I'd guess that some builds will be more feat-intensive, but for many, two feats for a 1/day bomb will be a no-brainer. Nope. We can guess (bonus powers from the other class, class features widened to or towards the "full" base features for the class, -maybe- the ability to pick powers from either class on level, thus getting to retrain power switching feats), but we've not gotten the full skinny by any means. Certainly, if there's a "true" 50/50 split, it is likely to be here. Very much agreed that the "one class limit" is an acknowledgement that these feats are overpowered; if they were balanced, there'd be no reason to have the limit. I'm guessing a fix will happen later. But you definately -can- drop a multiclassing feat and replace it with a different multiclassing feat via retraining later -- why wouldn't you be able to? Hell, given the power switching feats and the way they work, you could even switch over a whole power set at a new level (prediction: eratta saying that if you do this, you -must- switch over all your power switching feats; you can't keep powers from the old class! But I doubt this will be clear except by inference in the printed rules; it's too much of a corner case). [/QUOTE]
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