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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 4198824" data-attributes="member: 32164">Umm...I hate to be the one to break it to you, but that's sort of the point. If the average wizard has a choice between multiclassing to fighter to gain all those class features and blowing a feat to gain armor proficiency, which is he going to take? Without the "hit" to casting, which everyone agrees sucks, the choice is a no-brainer. No-brainer choice = bad design.If you want to improve your defenses, you should have to take feats to improve your defenses (toughness, armor proficiency, and so forth). If you want to improve your combat ability, you should take feats that improve your combat prowess (weapon proficiency, weapon focus, and the like). That's the way competency expansion is SUPPOSED to work. You aren't supposed to be able to get all the front-loaded features of a class in exchange for dipping into it for one level. That's pretty freaking stupid. You want more hit points? Take toughness. It's the gift that keeps giving. More surges? There's probably a feat that boosts the number of surges you get. I guarantee there's armor and weapon proficiency feats (which probably aren't nearly as "painful" to the character as they were in 3e).Just want skill training in Thievery? Don't multiclass to Rogue, just take the Skill Training feat.Again, this is not a bug, it's a feature.Most people splashed rogue for the skill points, not the sneak attack. If you just want Thievery trained, spend a feat to do that. For the character who really wants rogue flavor, take Sneak of Shadows.It's not complicated. If you want to be able to sneak attack every round, you should be a rogue in the first place. If any class could acquire the features of any other, we'd quickly end up where everyone has all the relevant features of every class, and the concept of roles (and teamwork!) would lose all meaning.That's not a game I'm interested in. Stop trying to fill the role of two classes. If you insist on doing so, you're not "creating a character concept," you're being a spotlight hog.</blockquote>

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