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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 4186498" data-attributes="member: 32164">You're right, he's not an idiot. He's a powergaming tweaker with no grasp on "reality" who's looking to rules lawyer any advantage he can out of the system by taking the most absurdist interpretation possible.To provide any kind of flanking bonus (for example), the "creatures" should have to be:a) legitimately threatening to the target in question.b) actively attacking the target in question.In other words, if you dump out a bag of rats, they're only a legitimate threat if you have a way to make them attack the creature in question and they can actually hurt it. In other words, if you're the Rat-King and can direct them to attack, you can use your bag o' rats. What kind of flanking bonus they provide may be another matter.Moreover, to a demon with damage resistance 5+, the rats (who can maybe do 1 hp of damage) aren't dangerous enough to even qualify as a nuisance.However, based on what Michele said, I imagine this is all covered in the DMG.</blockquote>