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<blockquote data-quote="Wolfwood2" data-source="post: 4204312" data-attributes="member: 39394">I think you're misunderstanding what's happening with the History check here.&nbsp; Remember that &quot;important to the Duke's life&quot; is a subjective judgement, and the one doing the judging is the Duke himself.&nbsp; The way the the Diplomacy check &quot;unlocks&quot; History is that it makes the Duke talk enough that he lets slip that he considers a particular event important.&nbsp; I envision it going something like this:&quot;...so you see, your Grace, if you don't help us stop the orcs now then they will be a much greater threat later on.&quot;DM: The Duke bites his lip.&nbsp; He's obviously swayed by your argument, but is not yet convinced.&nbsp; He says, &quot;Yes, but that would leave my western flank weakened to the sea raiders.&nbsp; I recall Duke Swintel made a similiar decision during the reign of the Twin Kings, and it cost him dearly.&quot;Todd: Dude, Rhilato the Great has history as a trained skill!&nbsp; Can I roll to do something with that reference.DM: Sharp ear.&nbsp; Yeah, you get a one-time use of History to try and piggy-back off that reference to sway him.Todd: (rolls a 25)&nbsp; Sweet.&nbsp; Okay, I explain to him that in the greater context Swintel made the right call.&nbsp; Sure he ended up with some coastal villages burn, but that' better than losing half his Dutchy.The reason it required the Diplomacy skill to open things up is that if the Duke had never heard about Swintel's decision then referencing something he's never heard of wouldn't help sway him.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wolfwood2, post: 4204312, member: 39394"] I think you're misunderstanding what's happening with the History check here. Remember that "important to the Duke's life" is a subjective judgement, and the one doing the judging is the Duke himself. The way the the Diplomacy check "unlocks" History is that it makes the Duke talk enough that he lets slip that he considers a particular event important. I envision it going something like this: "...so you see, your Grace, if you don't help us stop the orcs now then they will be a much greater threat later on." DM: The Duke bites his lip. He's obviously swayed by your argument, but is not yet convinced. He says, "Yes, but that would leave my western flank weakened to the sea raiders. I recall Duke Swintel made a similiar decision during the reign of the Twin Kings, and it cost him dearly." Todd: Dude, Rhilato the Great has history as a trained skill! Can I roll to do something with that reference. DM: Sharp ear. Yeah, you get a one-time use of History to try and piggy-back off that reference to sway him. Todd: (rolls a 25) Sweet. Okay, I explain to him that in the greater context Swintel made the right call. Sure he ended up with some coastal villages burn, but that' better than losing half his Dutchy. The reason it required the Diplomacy skill to open things up is that if the Duke had never heard about Swintel's decision then referencing something he's never heard of wouldn't help sway him. [/QUOTE]

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