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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 4205575" data-attributes="member: 1879">The irony is you're snarking at people for not reading when you seem to have missed this bit: So the skill challenge is not governing all possible social interaction with this NPC. Nor does it say that intimidation won't work on him. It says that in order to convince him that they are trustworthy, intimidation is counter-productive.If someone felt like being particularly finicky about it they could insist that there is an implication that Intimidation won't work at all since this challenge covers "Provide assistance" and Intimidate doesn't work.At this point I feel the need to point out that we don't really know who the NPC is, or what the PC want from him. Any form of assistance that strays outside the "Present + 1d6X10 minutes" that the intimidation skill covers should be out of bounds for the skill.Example 1: The PCs need the Duke signet ring. Of course they can intimidate him into giving it to them, since they are present during the transfer.Example 2: The PCs need a potion of Flight and know the Archmage has one. They can use intimidate to get it from him.Example 3: The PCs need the Duke to loan them a regiment of men to fight a war with the Orcs. Intimidate will not work, becuase the Duke will not be with them in the field and if they try it the regiment will have secret orders to kill them. They might try taking the Duke hostage I suppose. Good luck with that.Example 4: The PCs need the Archmage to make them an item to help them bind a powerful demon. Because item construction takes days it is well outside the use of intimidate and when they try to use the item they'll probably get a programmed image of the Archmage telling the demon "Bon appetite."</blockquote>

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