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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4207819" data-attributes="member: 710">I like the categories and descriptors. They definitely look useful.On Two-Weapon Fighting: Granting extra attacks due to wielding multiple weapons doesn't fit well into the 4E system. Most character attacks will use powers, and each power has a description what kind of action it requires to use. How do you handle this with making multiple attacks? Either you can only use a power and ignore the off-hand attack, or you grant the benefits twice, which obviously leads to overpowered effects. Neither is satisfying.So, if you want to fight with two-weapons, all the time, you'll need a power for it. I wonder if it will be a at-will attack power for the Ranger (I don't know if that would be balanced), but I think most of the time, you'll use your encounter powers to gain extra attacks. To compensate, you won't suffer any penalties.A general tendency for 4E seems to be to eliminate direct penalties. You don't get a non-proficiency penalty, but a proficiency bonus. When you perform a special maneuver (via a power), you don't suffer penalty or bonuses, but you get to deal damage and a special effect. To compensate, you can't do it at-will. It's only consistent to do the same for two-weapon fighting.People might still disagree with this basic design assumptions, but that's what they are, and I think it is a wise choice not to break with them without a real need.I hope as much as anyone else that it will be easy to add additional two-weapon fighting powers to other characters, but I can live without it. If two-weapon fighting is my character shtick, why _not_ play a Ranger?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 4207819, member: 710"] I like the categories and descriptors. They definitely look useful. On Two-Weapon Fighting: Granting extra attacks due to wielding multiple weapons doesn't fit well into the 4E system. Most character attacks will use powers, and each power has a description what kind of action it requires to use. How do you handle this with making multiple attacks? Either you can only use a power and ignore the off-hand attack, or you grant the benefits twice, which obviously leads to overpowered effects. Neither is satisfying. So, if you want to fight with two-weapons, all the time, you'll need a power for it. I wonder if it will be a at-will attack power for the Ranger (I don't know if that would be balanced), but I think most of the time, you'll use your encounter powers to gain extra attacks. To compensate, you won't suffer any penalties. A general tendency for 4E seems to be to eliminate direct penalties. You don't get a non-proficiency penalty, but a proficiency bonus. When you perform a special maneuver (via a power), you don't suffer penalty or bonuses, but you get to deal damage and a special effect. To compensate, you can't do it at-will. It's only consistent to do the same for two-weapon fighting. People might still disagree with this basic design assumptions, but that's what they are, and I think it is a wise choice not to break with them without a real need. I hope as much as anyone else that it will be easy to add additional two-weapon fighting powers to other characters, but I can live without it. If two-weapon fighting is my character shtick, why _not_ play a Ranger? [/QUOTE]

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