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<blockquote data-quote="med stud" data-source="post: 4193704" data-attributes="member: 1211"><p>That's also a possibility, and one that I like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />. I think the Old Testament- angels are much better material for RPG-angels than the popular culture ones. They also acted as independent beings when they carried out God's commands; they got orders, hit lists and symbols that marked the ones who weren't to be killed. In the Lot- case, Lot even had to run away because that angel was about to kill everyone in town, mark or no mark.</p><p></p><p>If the angels were just the extension of God's own will, that wouldn't have been necessary. They would instinctively know who was good and who was evil. Another example of angels being individuals with their own will was the rebellion, where Lucifer and a third of the angels defied God. That wouldn't have happened if they didn't have a will of their own. The remaining angels obey God, but out of their own will.</p><p></p><p>I think that's what 4e is aiming at, that angels have their own will. They can chose to go against their god if they want to. In the Judeo/Christian/Islam- religions, angels really have nothing to bargain with, since God is almighty. In a D&D-polyhteistic setting, the angels have a better position against their god since that god can be killed or overthrown. Hence the "mercenary"- (very bad choice of word IMO) angle. The angels serve their god, but they don't put up with anything. An angel of vengeance will do vengeance and it will do it in style. It can't be ordered to do a handslapping or delivierance of veiled threats.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="med stud, post: 4193704, member: 1211"] That's also a possibility, and one that I like ;). I think the Old Testament- angels are much better material for RPG-angels than the popular culture ones. They also acted as independent beings when they carried out God's commands; they got orders, hit lists and symbols that marked the ones who weren't to be killed. In the Lot- case, Lot even had to run away because that angel was about to kill everyone in town, mark or no mark. If the angels were just the extension of God's own will, that wouldn't have been necessary. They would instinctively know who was good and who was evil. Another example of angels being individuals with their own will was the rebellion, where Lucifer and a third of the angels defied God. That wouldn't have happened if they didn't have a will of their own. The remaining angels obey God, but out of their own will. I think that's what 4e is aiming at, that angels have their own will. They can chose to go against their god if they want to. In the Judeo/Christian/Islam- religions, angels really have nothing to bargain with, since God is almighty. In a D&D-polyhteistic setting, the angels have a better position against their god since that god can be killed or overthrown. Hence the "mercenary"- (very bad choice of word IMO) angle. The angels serve their god, but they don't put up with anything. An angel of vengeance will do vengeance and it will do it in style. It can't be ordered to do a handslapping or delivierance of veiled threats. [/QUOTE]
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