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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 806511" data-attributes="member: 3929">Class, cross class, and exclusive skills are more than just flavor; they are part of game balance. One of the things you benefit from by taking rogue and bard is that you have some great skill options. Not so for the fighter. He has other goodies. That there are cross class and exclusive skills is a good thing.Of course, as Lord Pendragon said, those lists can be changed. With the DM's approval, you can switch out a class skill for a cross class. You can be that spotting fighter, or the lip reading ranger. But you still must switch out skills; you can't keep your current skill list. Versatility is restricted to make the less powerful fighters more effeictive out of combat. Just as long as that restriction remains in place, then it should still be balanced.Take Trogdar the Fighter, for example. He likes to track things. So he's on the ground the whole time. He takes Track as his first level feat. He tracks fairly well. Wild Lore is a class skill. But since he's on the ground the whole time, he has no idea how to climb. That skill through disuse has become cross class. Or maybe he sits in ambush all through his training. He waits and waits and waits for things to come by. Spot and Listen become class skills. Jump and swim atrophy away. Cross class.You can shift a character's versatility, but if you expand it, you must then contract it as well so as not to be unfair to the other classes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Felix, post: 806511, member: 3929"] Class, cross class, and exclusive skills are more than just flavor; they are part of game balance. One of the things you benefit from by taking rogue and bard is that you have some great skill options. Not so for the fighter. He has other goodies. That there are cross class and exclusive skills is a good thing. Of course, as Lord Pendragon said, those lists can be changed. With the DM's approval, you can switch out a class skill for a cross class. You can be that spotting fighter, or the lip reading ranger. But you still must switch out skills; you can't keep your current skill list. Versatility is restricted to make the less powerful fighters more effeictive out of combat. Just as long as that restriction remains in place, then it should still be balanced. Take Trogdar the Fighter, for example. He likes to track things. So he's on the ground the whole time. He takes Track as his first level feat. He tracks fairly well. Wild Lore is a class skill. But since he's on the ground the whole time, he has no idea how to climb. That skill through disuse has become cross class. Or maybe he sits in ambush all through his training. He waits and waits and waits for things to come by. Spot and Listen become class skills. Jump and swim atrophy away. Cross class. You can shift a character's versatility, but if you expand it, you must then contract it as well so as not to be unfair to the other classes. [/QUOTE]

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