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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheYeti1775" data-source="post: 4763677" data-attributes="member: 20914">If they did do #2 Seeding it themselves, guess what it's no longer a pirate copy but an official copy as they are the owners of the Copyright.  WikiPiracy for a win <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> lol <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />But really I do my own bookmarking all the time within PDF's, makes it a bit easier navigating.  Even adding to existing bookmarks of publishers.Yup locks only keep honest people honest.But this is a case of the barn's empty better lock the doors so nothing gets out.I think its possible to get a good sampling, a full on accurate count nope.Since they know the number of PDF's sold that is their static number.If in their sampling they confirmed 10 illegal downloads to each sale, that is where they can justifibly use the 10:1 pdf ratio.  Honestly I expect that number to be on a low end.Why you ask, simple.In the thread on "How Long till Arcane Power is Pirated", I looked for it last night.  Found it on several servers without using BitTorrent once.  Most of the servers were just normal everyday ones that people left unsecured.  This took less than 10 minutes of effort.That doesn't even include the ones that simply copy down to a thumbdrive and pass it around the gaming group for everyone to throw on their laptop.Weather its a result of just seeing if you can do it, to "nerdrage", to sticking it to the man; the pirating won't stop just because WOTC quits selling official PDF's.  Just like with E-Tools & PCGen datasets, those are easily found as well for the "Official" datasets.And as far as tracking IP address, have fun with it.  Using my own house as an example, there are 3 unsecured and 2 secured wireless connections within reach from my Basement, not including my own secured one.  It would be nothing for me to set up connection via neighbor 'A', 'B' or 'C' and BitTorrent all day long to my secondary computer.  Than use a Thumbdrive to take the file from that computer to my own.  Already in that scenario I have a 4:1 ratio (the original bittorrent copy; the secondary computer downloaded copy; thumbdrive copy; & main computer copy).Folks who download will continue to do so.Folks who scan will continue to do so.Folks who bought official copies, will no longer be able to do so.Personally I like my dead trees, though I do find PDF's a boon when planning stuff out and have them on my Jumpdrive when I'm on the go.While I understand WOTC's kneejerk reaction to it, can't say I see the reasoning behind it.  It only slows down the pirates a bit, without leaving a legal avenue for those that are willing to pay.If digital copies get tied to DDI, I'll probably never see a legal copy.  Why's that you ask, because I haven't and don't plan on playing 4E anytime soon.  If they incorporate past versions into the Character Builder, you would probably see myself and quite a few old timers join the DDI ranks.  And by getting us to join the ranks even for the 'one monthers', you might just convince us to try 4E out once or twice convincing us to stay around longer than a month.  Heck throw the bone of a 'Official' article on old versions every now and than.  But for Mr Leeds, I do have to say that interview was full of corpspeak.  Learn how to talk to your customers, not like they are shareholders but like the customers they are.  Honestly how many here would have been tickled by an answer like this.Half this arguement could be settled with an answer like that.  It tells us nothing of their corporate stragey secrets but lets us know that they are attempting and an estimated timetable with the stimulation it is not finalized.O well on to other things.</blockquote>

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