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<blockquote data-quote="SHARK" data-source="post: 224919" data-attributes="member: 1131"><p>Greetings!</p><p></p><p>Hello Sword-dancer! Good to see you!</p><p></p><p>Sword-dancer wrote:</p><p>____________________________________________________</p><p>Quote:</p><p></p><p>"Simon de Montfort would have liked such an speech from a cleric to his "troops"</p><p></p><p>Pope Innocent put it shorter "Strike them down, god knows his own."</p><p>This cleric maybe lawful, but also evil, he calls not for war and battle but for annihilation."</p><p>____________________________________________________</p><p>End Quote.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The world of Thandor is a world where the forces of Darkness seek to subjugate and enslave the world for all eternity. All of humanity is threatened by armies of millions of evil humanoids, and hordes of monsters seeking to annihilate all that is good. Within human societies, there are depraved cults of wicked and evil humans that seek to bring human society to it's knees, and usher in an age of apocalpse where the whole world is offered up naked and helpless to the Dark Gods. </p><p></p><p>It is from this background and in this context that much of humanity and other good races must operate. From such a context, evil monstrous races are not even considered capable of concepts of morality. The vast majority of human philosophical and religious authority, as well as the masses of society, simply don't believe that monstrous evil races are moral free agents. Monstrous evil races, of whatever kind, are not considered to have any rights what so ever. There is no ACLU, nor is there any who scream that the evil races have rights. Such a notion is simply inconcievable to the vast majority of all human societies. That doesn't mean that there are never any humanoids that aren't evil, for they do exist, but the vast majority of humanity doesn't believe such is even possible, let alone likely, including paladins.</p><p></p><p>Concepts of morality and innocence are considered only possible for humans, and other races considered "Good" or at least believed to be free moral agents. Few would ever even want to question such, because there is no context for such notions to even arise. Why would anyone *want* to believe that such races of humanoids were anything *but* evil? There is no context in history, on a large scale, that is in the public consciousness that such races are not evil, wicked, and depraved.</p><p></p><p>Again, though, that is from a campaign-point-of-view. As DM, of course there are individuals that aren't evil, but they are quite unusual, and even when they exist, it doesn't mean that the public is aware of it, nor is it expected that they would believe such as being possible. They would think it to be myth, or probably a great deception by the Dark Gods to gain an advantage over the good races. Like everyone else in society, paladins are part of that society, and they don't somehow have access to secret, DM-only notes!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> They embrace the beliefs of the larger society that they come from, for unless they have personal, direct experience to the contrary, they have no basis or evidence to think otherwise. That would take considerable experience, and luck, but that certainly wouldn't be the experience or knowledge of young paladins, or even paladins that have been fighting against the forces of Darkness for much of their lives. Their experience would reinforce what their culture and society have always claimed and taught to be true and right.</p><p></p><p>Indeed, Simon De Montforte would be welcomed into the ranks of the faithful!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>Semper Fidelis,</p><p></p><p>SHARK</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SHARK, post: 224919, member: 1131"] Greetings! Hello Sword-dancer! Good to see you! Sword-dancer wrote: ____________________________________________________ Quote: "Simon de Montfort would have liked such an speech from a cleric to his "troops" Pope Innocent put it shorter "Strike them down, god knows his own." This cleric maybe lawful, but also evil, he calls not for war and battle but for annihilation." ____________________________________________________ End Quote. The world of Thandor is a world where the forces of Darkness seek to subjugate and enslave the world for all eternity. All of humanity is threatened by armies of millions of evil humanoids, and hordes of monsters seeking to annihilate all that is good. Within human societies, there are depraved cults of wicked and evil humans that seek to bring human society to it's knees, and usher in an age of apocalpse where the whole world is offered up naked and helpless to the Dark Gods. It is from this background and in this context that much of humanity and other good races must operate. From such a context, evil monstrous races are not even considered capable of concepts of morality. The vast majority of human philosophical and religious authority, as well as the masses of society, simply don't believe that monstrous evil races are moral free agents. Monstrous evil races, of whatever kind, are not considered to have any rights what so ever. There is no ACLU, nor is there any who scream that the evil races have rights. Such a notion is simply inconcievable to the vast majority of all human societies. That doesn't mean that there are never any humanoids that aren't evil, for they do exist, but the vast majority of humanity doesn't believe such is even possible, let alone likely, including paladins. Concepts of morality and innocence are considered only possible for humans, and other races considered "Good" or at least believed to be free moral agents. Few would ever even want to question such, because there is no context for such notions to even arise. Why would anyone *want* to believe that such races of humanoids were anything *but* evil? There is no context in history, on a large scale, that is in the public consciousness that such races are not evil, wicked, and depraved. Again, though, that is from a campaign-point-of-view. As DM, of course there are individuals that aren't evil, but they are quite unusual, and even when they exist, it doesn't mean that the public is aware of it, nor is it expected that they would believe such as being possible. They would think it to be myth, or probably a great deception by the Dark Gods to gain an advantage over the good races. Like everyone else in society, paladins are part of that society, and they don't somehow have access to secret, DM-only notes!:) They embrace the beliefs of the larger society that they come from, for unless they have personal, direct experience to the contrary, they have no basis or evidence to think otherwise. That would take considerable experience, and luck, but that certainly wouldn't be the experience or knowledge of young paladins, or even paladins that have been fighting against the forces of Darkness for much of their lives. Their experience would reinforce what their culture and society have always claimed and taught to be true and right. Indeed, Simon De Montforte would be welcomed into the ranks of the faithful!:) Semper Fidelis, SHARK [/QUOTE]
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