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<blockquote data-quote="CRGreathouse" data-source="post: 352950" data-attributes="member: 474">Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Expanded ECL rules!OK, replace them with any other nopn-3 point epic feats.&nbsp; The comparison remains the same - this was just a convenient example.Saiyan?&nbsp; What's that?&nbsp; Do you have a link?&nbsp; I'd love to see it.Still, showing a (near-)unilaterally weaker character to be 3 times stronger strikes me as more than near-perfect.Are you saying that level 60 characters wouldn't have a realistic chance?&nbsp; I beg to differ.&nbsp; I wasn't a playtester, but I think I'd notice if it took 200 more levels than I had to defeat a character.I think this is due mainly to the diverging specialties of groups.&nbsp; It's unavoidable as characters become more diverse, I think; epic levels just make it easier and thus more of a problem.&nbsp; CRs get whacked well before epic levels with unbalanced groups (all rogues, for example).&nbsp; THG's &quot;Holier Than Thou&quot; etc. sidebars are an interesting way to handle this, though they, too, would only prolong the inevitable.I sure hope so.&nbsp; I'd love to see what he thinks!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CRGreathouse, post: 352950, member: 474"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Expanded ECL rules![/b] OK, replace them with any other nopn-3 point epic feats. The comparison remains the same - this was just a convenient example. Saiyan? What's that? Do you have a link? I'd love to see it. Still, showing a (near-)unilaterally weaker character to be 3 times stronger strikes me as more than near-perfect. Are you saying that level 60 characters wouldn't have a realistic chance? I beg to differ. I wasn't a playtester, but I think I'd notice if it took 200 more levels than I had to defeat a character. I think this is due mainly to the diverging specialties of groups. It's unavoidable as characters become more diverse, I think; epic levels just make it easier and thus more of a problem. CRs get whacked well before epic levels with unbalanced groups (all rogues, for example). THG's "Holier Than Thou" etc. sidebars are an interesting way to handle this, though they, too, would only prolong the inevitable. I sure hope so. I'd love to see what he thinks! [/QUOTE]

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