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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5006187" data-attributes="member: 82106">Well, others have already mentioned the invalidity of the concept that NPCs say anything about classed PLAYER CHARACTERS at all, but I add my voice to that. The NPCs on the wall are NPCs, they don't follow class rules and in any case even if they WERE classed what makes you think they use anything but MBAs?Rangers and Rogues are NOT "highly specialized", that's ridiculous. Both classes can use either ranged and/or melee combat powers quite effectively, thank you. Beyond that you just illustrated what I was saying in my previous post PERFECTLY. You need to stop being fixated by the names of the classes. An urban non-light weapon martial striker is perfectly well modeled by the ranger class. Only your inability to let go of Ranger = Guy in the Woods stops you from doing that. What class feature do rangers have that forces them to be non-urban type characters? WotC went to great lengths in fact to allow for exactly these kinds of uses of the ranger class by leaving out anything that forces you to tie them to a rural sort of background. They don't even have TRACKING as a class feature for crying out loud! Same with Rogues, there's nothing specific to the class that ties it to one type of environment or background, they are just light weapon experts (which admittedly is best explained by use of weapons in an urban setting, but that's NOT the fault of the class design). Admittedly the fluff for both of these classes generically describes them in certain terms and the names are evocative of a certain sort of background, but can you really not see past that? The 4e designers wanted to provide a visualization for each class that would let someone new to the class easily create a character concept. They had to describe it in SOME fashion, yet they assiduously avoided mechanically pigeonholing them. The issue isn't the game, its the way people are using it. The presentation may have encouraged this issue but they never expected you to be chained to that fluff.</blockquote>

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