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<blockquote data-quote="Rel" data-source="post: 7649034" data-attributes="member: 99">Sorry I didn't make it back to comment sooner.&nbsp; Been sick all week and it has kinda sucked.That's a really good example and one that I've seen in action myself.&nbsp; A 3e game that I ran many years ago had an Ogre Magess recurring villain (Invisibility and Regeneration make that easier) that the party grew to absolutely HATE.&nbsp; They fought a DEMIGOD at the end of that campaign but it was not even remotely as satisfying to defeat him as it was to kill that Ogre Magess.&nbsp; The Wizard had developed an entire suite of spells designed specifically to defeat her.I like your notions of not to push for a villain to survive.&nbsp; But when it happens, it can be a huge opportunity to have the players sink their teeth into your plotlines.Keep working at it.&nbsp; Try that pattern of commanding yourself to start while simultaneously giving yourself permission not to finish (for leisure stuff, not work stuff).&nbsp; See if that pattern can jump start your brain and propel you forward.You're spot on.&nbsp; I very frequently step away from an intractable problem to &quot;let my brain chew on it for a while&quot; and it is mightily effective.&nbsp; Course I'm also pretty bullish on the idea of getting other minds working on it.&nbsp; I'll shoot a quick email to a friend asking for thoughts on a specific thing I'm working on and the whole Zeigarnik Effect works on them too.I'm an evil genius like that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rel, post: 7649034, member: 99"] Sorry I didn't make it back to comment sooner. Been sick all week and it has kinda sucked. That's a really good example and one that I've seen in action myself. A 3e game that I ran many years ago had an Ogre Magess recurring villain (Invisibility and Regeneration make that easier) that the party grew to absolutely HATE. They fought a DEMIGOD at the end of that campaign but it was not even remotely as satisfying to defeat him as it was to kill that Ogre Magess. The Wizard had developed an entire suite of spells designed specifically to defeat her. I like your notions of not to push for a villain to survive. But when it happens, it can be a huge opportunity to have the players sink their teeth into your plotlines. Keep working at it. Try that pattern of commanding yourself to start while simultaneously giving yourself permission not to finish (for leisure stuff, not work stuff). See if that pattern can jump start your brain and propel you forward. You're spot on. I very frequently step away from an intractable problem to "let my brain chew on it for a while" and it is mightily effective. Course I'm also pretty bullish on the idea of getting other minds working on it. I'll shoot a quick email to a friend asking for thoughts on a specific thing I'm working on and the whole Zeigarnik Effect works on them too. I'm an evil genius like that. [/QUOTE]

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