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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8254945" data-attributes="member: 82106">The answer is simple, at least in the original troupe play 1e paradigm. It would then be easy for a player to simply 'pay up' a new character. That would work both for a single player (though Gary forbade all such cooperation, so there is that) but also between players. When Joe gets a new Dwarf because his old PC died, Fred gifts the new character with 10,000 GP and he just trains himself up to level 3 without ever setting foot in the dungeon. There's NO RISK. The game was meant to be a test of player skill. Such shenanigans undermine the whole basic concept of play. So XP, in 1e's paradigm, is vital.Now, is it vital in a 5e game which runs in the most common 5e paradigm, of a single party of unified level where the object of play is to advance while having an interesting narrative? Probably not. Of course 5e doesn't have training rules either... In fact you are usually going to bring in a new PC of party level if one dies. The game isn't really ABOUT &quot;can I get to level 20?&quot; which is basically the entire goal of classic 1e AD&amp;D (and the other TSR editions, mostly). 5e using 'milestone leveling' actually makes more sense IMHO than XP, and this is what we normally did in our 4e games as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8254945, member: 82106"] The answer is simple, at least in the original troupe play 1e paradigm. It would then be easy for a player to simply 'pay up' a new character. That would work both for a single player (though Gary forbade all such cooperation, so there is that) but also between players. When Joe gets a new Dwarf because his old PC died, Fred gifts the new character with 10,000 GP and he just trains himself up to level 3 without ever setting foot in the dungeon. There's NO RISK. The game was meant to be a test of player skill. Such shenanigans undermine the whole basic concept of play. So XP, in 1e's paradigm, is vital. Now, is it vital in a 5e game which runs in the most common 5e paradigm, of a single party of unified level where the object of play is to advance while having an interesting narrative? Probably not. Of course 5e doesn't have training rules either... In fact you are usually going to bring in a new PC of party level if one dies. The game isn't really ABOUT "can I get to level 20?" which is basically the entire goal of classic 1e AD&D (and the other TSR editions, mostly). 5e using 'milestone leveling' actually makes more sense IMHO than XP, and this is what we normally did in our 4e games as well. [/QUOTE]

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