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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9503863" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Solely because the PHB, not the DMG, is such a shocking chonker because of exception-based design and an insanely giant number of classes and spells. All RPGs which rely on exception-based design tend to be larger and much more of them have DM's books than the rest of the industry.</p><p></p><p>Sure, but it's been that way for what, 45 years? Unless D&D dramatically reduces what's in the PHB and/or moves away from exception-based design, this can't change. PF2's solution is just to have an excessively and ridiculously gigantic book which contains both, which ain't great.</p><p></p><p>Least used doesn't mean "doesn't need to exist". That's irrational. I worked in a legal library for years. Some of our least-used books were extremely important. It just means it shouldn't be expected to move as many copies.</p><p></p><p>Sure, in large part because the DMG 2014 was terrible lol.</p><p></p><p>I've been running a wide variety of RPGs since 1989, you attempting to lecture me on this is not helpful nor informative. Especially as you don't seem to understand how exception-based design fits in here. I can explain if you don't know what that is, but I don't want to be annoying and explain it if you do know.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9503863, member: 18"] Solely because the PHB, not the DMG, is such a shocking chonker because of exception-based design and an insanely giant number of classes and spells. All RPGs which rely on exception-based design tend to be larger and much more of them have DM's books than the rest of the industry. Sure, but it's been that way for what, 45 years? Unless D&D dramatically reduces what's in the PHB and/or moves away from exception-based design, this can't change. PF2's solution is just to have an excessively and ridiculously gigantic book which contains both, which ain't great. Least used doesn't mean "doesn't need to exist". That's irrational. I worked in a legal library for years. Some of our least-used books were extremely important. It just means it shouldn't be expected to move as many copies. Sure, in large part because the DMG 2014 was terrible lol. I've been running a wide variety of RPGs since 1989, you attempting to lecture me on this is not helpful nor informative. Especially as you don't seem to understand how exception-based design fits in here. I can explain if you don't know what that is, but I don't want to be annoying and explain it if you do know. [/QUOTE]
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