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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jhaelen" data-source="post: 5039896" data-attributes="member: 46713">Well, WoL has been (and still is) one of my favorite 3e books. It's one of the books I've got the most use of. It's been a great inspiration for me and I've used it with great success in my campaign. Three items have even played pivotal roles in the campaign. Currently, the pcs possess six Items of Legacy:- Bow of the Black Archer- Bones of Li-Peng- Mindsplinter- Treebrother- Ur- The Whip of Concordant Opposition (self-created)Guurgal, Exordius, the Planeshifter's Knife and Banrhialorg (from The Sinister Spire) will play a role and/or can be found in the course of the current adventure.Apparently, many dismissed the book just because the WoL mechanics as written SUCK. Instead of throwing the baby out with the bath water, I simply ignored the penalty tables.What I'm doing instead is this:Calculate the cost of the item's abilities and have the pc pay for them via the rituals as if they'd created the item usign the item creation rules (without applying the markup for combining abilities). I.e. about half the gp cost and 1/10 xp cost. Note, that I also allow the pcs to pay more xp than they currently have at their level - they'll just end up having a negative level that will automatically get away once they've earned enough xp.Here's what you should end up with:Least Legacy: 18-24k gpLesser Legacy: 48-72k gpGreater Legacy: 128-144k gpI.e. a total of 194-240k gpNote that for many items you'll have to add a couple of powers to have them end up being in these ranges since they're too weak as written. Actually, I didn't use any of the items exactly as written. I also took care to tailor them somewhat to be desirable and useful for the pcs (or sometimes important npcs).About the only problem I've experienced:The players that didn't get an Item of Legacy yet have started to complain!In 4e I'm definitely going to make use of them again. The mechanism as described in the AV supplement should work fine. While the artifact rules in 4e are fine, too, I wouldn't want to be more than one or maybe two of them in the game at any one time.They also serve a slightly different role, since the pcs will never get to keep an artifact.To sum it up:I can definitely recommend to use Items of Legacy _IF_ you don't use them as written. Then they're the best thing since the Earthdawn RPG authors invented the idea.</blockquote>

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