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<blockquote data-quote="Beginning of the End" data-source="post: 5053211" data-attributes="member: 55271"><p>That depends on how you look at it: You're tripling the number of times you'll miss.</p><p></p><p>As I mentioned earlier in the thread, WoLs don't add up: When you run the numbers, you discover that in the most optimized WoLs the discounted price is paid for on a 1-to-1 basis by the permanent penalties you accept for using the item. That looks balanced at first glance, but it's actually a terrible deal because you continue to suffer those permanent penalties even if you're not using the WoL.</p><p></p><p>(For less optimized WoLs, the math is even worse: You're now paying more in penalties than you're saving in gold.)</p><p></p><p>You're ALWAYS better off not paying the WoL penalties and simply using a "less" powerful item (which is, actually, exactly as powerful or possibly even more powerful once you factor in the cost of the penalties).</p><p></p><p>The entire WoL system is fundamentally busted. Which doesn't mean it's impossible to use (as long as you don't <a href="http://www.thealexandrian.net/creations/misc/fetishizing-balance.html" target="_blank">fetishize balance</a>), but it does mean it's very poorly designed.</p><p></p><p>Particularly since it's so trivial to design it properly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beginning of the End, post: 5053211, member: 55271"] That depends on how you look at it: You're tripling the number of times you'll miss. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, WoLs don't add up: When you run the numbers, you discover that in the most optimized WoLs the discounted price is paid for on a 1-to-1 basis by the permanent penalties you accept for using the item. That looks balanced at first glance, but it's actually a terrible deal because you continue to suffer those permanent penalties even if you're not using the WoL. (For less optimized WoLs, the math is even worse: You're now paying more in penalties than you're saving in gold.) You're ALWAYS better off not paying the WoL penalties and simply using a "less" powerful item (which is, actually, exactly as powerful or possibly even more powerful once you factor in the cost of the penalties). The entire WoL system is fundamentally busted. Which doesn't mean it's impossible to use (as long as you don't [url=http://www.thealexandrian.net/creations/misc/fetishizing-balance.html]fetishize balance[/url]), but it does mean it's very poorly designed. Particularly since it's so trivial to design it properly. [/QUOTE]
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