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<blockquote data-quote="Jaeger" data-source="post: 7822643" data-attributes="member: 27996"><p>Traditional RPG's like D&D are Games. First and foremost. Just because a DM/GM will use story as a means to relate campaign setting information to the players does not make playing D&D a 'storytelling' experience.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Moving the goal posts.</p><p></p><p>Metaphor is not part of this debate.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Taking notes is not literally writing a story: because words have definitions.</p><p></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 12px">NOTE (noun)</span></em></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><em>1: a brief record of facts, topics, or thoughts, written down as an aid to memory </em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><em>2: a short informal letter or written message. </em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><em>(verb)</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><em>1: notice or pay particular attention to (something). </em></span></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 12px">2: record (something) in writing. </span></em></p><p></p><p>Maybe there is someone out there who can type up an actual play report while waiting for their turn in combat, or other pauses in game play. But please note the the 'Game play' part that has to occur <em>before</em> someone can write a 'story' about it...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is no "and", you can’t have it both ways: because words have definitions. </p><p></p><p>(see my previous post.)</p><p></p><p>People seem to really believe that they are "writing a story" when they are playing a game. </p><p></p><p>No, you're just using the word "story" wrong.</p><p></p><p>It is really quite straight forward. The correct definitions for words are clear.</p><p></p><p>When you have finished a night of good gaming; you did not have a great 'story' session. You had a great <em>gaming</em> <em>session.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jaeger, post: 7822643, member: 27996"] Traditional RPG's like D&D are Games. First and foremost. Just because a DM/GM will use story as a means to relate campaign setting information to the players does not make playing D&D a 'storytelling' experience. Moving the goal posts. Metaphor is not part of this debate. Taking notes is not literally writing a story: because words have definitions. [I][SIZE=3]NOTE (noun)[/SIZE][/I] [SIZE=3][I]1: a brief record of facts, topics, or thoughts, written down as an aid to memory 2: a short informal letter or written message. (verb) 1: notice or pay particular attention to (something). [/I][/SIZE] [I][SIZE=3]2: record (something) in writing. [/SIZE][/I] Maybe there is someone out there who can type up an actual play report while waiting for their turn in combat, or other pauses in game play. But please note the the 'Game play' part that has to occur [I]before[/I] someone can write a 'story' about it... There is no "and", you can’t have it both ways: because words have definitions. (see my previous post.) People seem to really believe that they are "writing a story" when they are playing a game. No, you're just using the word "story" wrong. It is really quite straight forward. The correct definitions for words are clear. When you have finished a night of good gaming; you did not have a great 'story' session. You had a great [I]gaming[/I] [I]session. .[/I] [/QUOTE]
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