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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8786318" data-attributes="member: 93670">
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<li data-xf-list-type="ul">&quot;while you’re Heavily Obscured or behind Three-Quarters Cover or Total Cover, and you must be out of any visible enemy’s line of sight&quot;</li>
</ul>and<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">&quot;Ending the Condition. The Condition ends on you immediately after any of the following occurrences: you make a sound louder than a whisper, an enemy finds you, you make an Attack Roll, you cast a Spell with a verbal component, or you aren’t Heavily Obscured or behind any Cover.&quot;&nbsp; </li>
</ul>and the&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f608.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":devilish:" title="Devil&nbsp; &nbsp; :devilish:"&nbsp; data-smilie="29"data-shortname=":devilish:" />gm<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f608.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":devilish:" title="Devil&nbsp; &nbsp; :devilish:"&nbsp; data-smilie="29"data-shortname=":devilish:" /> clause<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">The DM determines the Difficulty Class of an Ability Check and can override a DC specified in the rules.&quot;</li>
</ul>Alongside the hide action (or almost any other action) itself.<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Typical Difficulty Class table&nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;Make note of your check’s total, which becomes the DC for a creature to find you with a Wisdom Check (Perception).&quot;</li>
</ul>Make note of those last two. The GM doesn't need to allow the player to roll and the GM can choose to override the dc so &quot;yep you are hidden&quot; can be said on a d20 roll of one minus one back when you are in an empty room with the group preparing to sneak off further into the bbeg's lair.&nbsp; Also like [USER=6779196]@Charlaquin[/USER] said cover &amp; obscurement is relative to the observer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8786318, member: 93670"] [LIST] [*]"while you’re Heavily Obscured or behind Three-Quarters Cover or Total Cover, and you must be out of any visible enemy’s line of sight" [/LIST] and [LIST] [*]"Ending the Condition.[B] The Condition ends on you immediately after any of the following occurrences: [/B]you make a sound louder than a whisper, an enemy finds you, you make an Attack Roll, you cast a Spell with a verbal component, or you aren’t Heavily Obscured or behind any Cover." [/LIST] and the :devilish:gm:devilish: clause [LIST] [*][B]The DM determines the Difficulty Class of an Ability Check [/B][U][B]and can [I]override[/I] a DC specified in the rules[/B][/U]." [/LIST] Alongside the hide action (or almost any other action) itself. [LIST] [*]The Typical Difficulty Class table "Make note of your check’s total, which becomes the DC for a creature to find you with a Wisdom Check (Perception)." [/LIST] Make note of those last two. The GM doesn't need to allow the player to roll and the GM can choose to override the dc so "yep you are hidden" can be said on a d20 roll of one minus one back when you are in an empty room with the group preparing to sneak off further into the bbeg's lair. Also like [USER=6779196]@Charlaquin[/USER] said cover & obscurement is relative to the observer. [/QUOTE]

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