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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 48916" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Mm-hmm...but then, that's the point. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> What I wanted was not your usual "versatile and flexible magic-user." It was one who just blew stuff up. While, admittedly, not for everyone, that was kind of the concept I was going for. They get beat up easily, and can level cities, which makes them really long for powerful allies...such as clerics, fighters, etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This seems to be a good idea. See, despite their focus on purely attack magic, I'm afraid the class may be a bit weak. Giving them Energy Substitution as a bonus feat ata some point would really help them out, and, I think, help alleviate the lack of skill points and versatility.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yup. I considered that it might be overpowering....but they do give up familiars. I figure this gives them more attack power, while not upping their versatility *too* much (they could use it for, say, a skill check, but that's about the extent).</p><p></p><p>Does it seem within the realm of usability? I mean, that 36 DC basically assures a failed save...or, if it needs to be changed, maybe I should exclude magic item bonuses?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, it could work. I plan on adding a "suggested easy class conversion" to the site that basically equates black mages with wizards, white mages with clerics, red mages with bards, etc.</p><p></p><p>But I did want something with a bit more flavor to it, a bit more "representative." Wu Jen are alright, but, though focued in attack magic, are more versatile than any FF black mage. That's just the start, of course. Basically, a Wu Jen, Sorcerer, or Wizard represent much of the class, but not enough to retain the flavor of the original class -- it's replaced with the flavor of the Wu Jen, Sorcerer, or Wizard.</p><p></p><p>While it could be a good "patch," I wanted to express the idea of the class....</p><p></p><p>*All attack magic</p><p>*Weak physical power (hp, weapons)</p><p>*No curative/defense/alteration spells...just kaboom.</p><p></p><p>Anyhoo, still looking for input. I'm thinking about adding Energy Admixture as a bonus feat at, maybe, 6th level? I think that the range of spells that will be added (the various FF spells, like Fire and Ice and Bolt and Meteo...) should up their attack versatility, and Admixture could represent a sort of "two spells at once" magical alchemey...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 48916, member: 2067"] Mm-hmm...but then, that's the point. :) What I wanted was not your usual "versatile and flexible magic-user." It was one who just blew stuff up. While, admittedly, not for everyone, that was kind of the concept I was going for. They get beat up easily, and can level cities, which makes them really long for powerful allies...such as clerics, fighters, etc. This seems to be a good idea. See, despite their focus on purely attack magic, I'm afraid the class may be a bit weak. Giving them Energy Substitution as a bonus feat ata some point would really help them out, and, I think, help alleviate the lack of skill points and versatility. Yup. I considered that it might be overpowering....but they do give up familiars. I figure this gives them more attack power, while not upping their versatility *too* much (they could use it for, say, a skill check, but that's about the extent). Does it seem within the realm of usability? I mean, that 36 DC basically assures a failed save...or, if it needs to be changed, maybe I should exclude magic item bonuses? Yeah, it could work. I plan on adding a "suggested easy class conversion" to the site that basically equates black mages with wizards, white mages with clerics, red mages with bards, etc. But I did want something with a bit more flavor to it, a bit more "representative." Wu Jen are alright, but, though focued in attack magic, are more versatile than any FF black mage. That's just the start, of course. Basically, a Wu Jen, Sorcerer, or Wizard represent much of the class, but not enough to retain the flavor of the original class -- it's replaced with the flavor of the Wu Jen, Sorcerer, or Wizard. While it could be a good "patch," I wanted to express the idea of the class.... *All attack magic *Weak physical power (hp, weapons) *No curative/defense/alteration spells...just kaboom. Anyhoo, still looking for input. I'm thinking about adding Energy Admixture as a bonus feat at, maybe, 6th level? I think that the range of spells that will be added (the various FF spells, like Fire and Ice and Bolt and Meteo...) should up their attack versatility, and Admixture could represent a sort of "two spells at once" magical alchemey...:) [/QUOTE]
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