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<blockquote data-quote="jontherev" data-source="post: 493766" data-attributes="member: 1451"><p>First of all, Expert Tactician does not give you an extra partial action. Read the feat from Song and Silence, not Sword and Fist. It gives you a free MELEE attack...that's it. So now rogues have to take the near worthless feat Combat Reflexes as a prerequisite (still worth it though <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />). Yes sneak attack applies, just like it does if you somehow have 36 attacks in a full round action AND your foe is denied their dex bonus (and isn't immune, concealed, etc.). I believe the Sage clarified somewhere that with QttE, you could bluff someone, make a free attack via ET, bluff again with your leftover action, and make another free attack via ET. Note, that this completely changes how the feat works AS WRITTEN since the feat clearly states that your extra attack must come before or after your normal action, not in the middle. QttE is a cool feat, but is not even close to being overpowered when combined with ET. What's worse, getting 2 sneak attacks per round, or getting 7 (3 from bab, 1 from haste, 1 from ET, 2 from offhand)? If I took QttE, I'd use the feat for other purposes like picking up dropped weapons and drinking potions w/o being seen or provoking AoO's.</p><p></p><p>EDIT:Oh yeah, if someone could point us to the source of that Sage Advice I'd appreciate it. Or, tell me if I'm wrong on that. That interpretation opens the possibility of hasted rogues getting 2 extra attacks per round via ET alone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jontherev, post: 493766, member: 1451"] First of all, Expert Tactician does not give you an extra partial action. Read the feat from Song and Silence, not Sword and Fist. It gives you a free MELEE attack...that's it. So now rogues have to take the near worthless feat Combat Reflexes as a prerequisite (still worth it though :D). Yes sneak attack applies, just like it does if you somehow have 36 attacks in a full round action AND your foe is denied their dex bonus (and isn't immune, concealed, etc.). I believe the Sage clarified somewhere that with QttE, you could bluff someone, make a free attack via ET, bluff again with your leftover action, and make another free attack via ET. Note, that this completely changes how the feat works AS WRITTEN since the feat clearly states that your extra attack must come before or after your normal action, not in the middle. QttE is a cool feat, but is not even close to being overpowered when combined with ET. What's worse, getting 2 sneak attacks per round, or getting 7 (3 from bab, 1 from haste, 1 from ET, 2 from offhand)? If I took QttE, I'd use the feat for other purposes like picking up dropped weapons and drinking potions w/o being seen or provoking AoO's. EDIT:Oh yeah, if someone could point us to the source of that Sage Advice I'd appreciate it. Or, tell me if I'm wrong on that. That interpretation opens the possibility of hasted rogues getting 2 extra attacks per round via ET alone. [/QUOTE]
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