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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 4263970" data-attributes="member: 35909">"The best defense is a good offense.  If you're only defensive, you limit yourself."I think the rules work as intended, contrary to your view.  Someone well trained in guarding themselves from attack (as taking CE, having BAB +5, and possibly the tumble ranks for better FD is) should be better able to stop attacks by mixing in some strikes of their own.  I also know from my (admittedly limited) martial arts experience, most if not all martial arts instructors will tell you to never stay completely on the defensive, tighten up, or continuously step back to avoid the other person's onslaught.  Doing such things can often be worse than actually fighting back, and maintaining a threat on the other person.  Many self defense martial arts even go on the principle that defense is a form of offense -- as you block, you step inside, closing a little with the opponent, to either grapple, try a lock, or launch a counter-attack.  I know that Krav Maga teaches to both block and make your own attack in the same motion, which works well as a defense against weapons (and in general).  So again, I actually like that full CE + FD is better than full defense.  Also note mechanically, CE + FD is limited to when you are in range to make a melee attack.  You can put yourself in full defense for the bonus AC at any range.</blockquote>