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<blockquote data-quote="DrSpunj" data-source="post: 4789255" data-attributes="member: 994"><p>In what way? We are dead on track for treasure parcels and I have the sheets to prove it! By the end of 5th level every PC will have a magical weapon/implement, armor & neck slot item that's +1, and some will have +2 items. Those are supposedly the only items that truly matter to the math, right? The rest of the treasure is gravy and non-essential (though admittedly very fun!).</p><p></p><p>And as you're fond of pointing out in threads with a perceived "bad d20", the law of averages is absolute. Can you do the math here & now? I mean, I've seen a lot of posts in this thread and a few others on this topic or the NAD topic that compare the math at level 1 vs level 30, or 5-15-25, but with your statement it sounds like you're ready to show me math that breaks down from level 1 to level 4? Or 4 to 5? I think the lowest I've seen someone claim this feat <em>may</em> be needed to date is "late Heroic" which I think someone else described as 8th level.</p><p></p><p>So can you or anyone else truly put forth the math to justify this at level 5? I'm very curious to see it laid out as cleanly as possible. I disagree that +1 doesn't affect cooperative play, as every bonus is worth getting as often as you can get it. You kept recommending our Rogue player work on getting CA more often than he did for those few sessions, so +2 is worth working for but not +1?</p><p></p><p>And, just to be clear given your Truth in Advertising disclosure (which still doesn't affect tomorrow night since the party will not reach level 5!) do you believe everyone should get the feat as written for free? So it's only one weapon/implement/focus that benefits? Ignore those classes that need two of those, or dragonborn or the shield push or the other stuff that's coming down the pipe in Divine Power and later products? Or are you asking for a flat +1 to all attacks for all PCs at level 5? How many House Rules are talking about here?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DrSpunj, post: 4789255, member: 994"] In what way? We are dead on track for treasure parcels and I have the sheets to prove it! By the end of 5th level every PC will have a magical weapon/implement, armor & neck slot item that's +1, and some will have +2 items. Those are supposedly the only items that truly matter to the math, right? The rest of the treasure is gravy and non-essential (though admittedly very fun!). And as you're fond of pointing out in threads with a perceived "bad d20", the law of averages is absolute. Can you do the math here & now? I mean, I've seen a lot of posts in this thread and a few others on this topic or the NAD topic that compare the math at level 1 vs level 30, or 5-15-25, but with your statement it sounds like you're ready to show me math that breaks down from level 1 to level 4? Or 4 to 5? I think the lowest I've seen someone claim this feat [i]may[/i] be needed to date is "late Heroic" which I think someone else described as 8th level. So can you or anyone else truly put forth the math to justify this at level 5? I'm very curious to see it laid out as cleanly as possible. I disagree that +1 doesn't affect cooperative play, as every bonus is worth getting as often as you can get it. You kept recommending our Rogue player work on getting CA more often than he did for those few sessions, so +2 is worth working for but not +1? And, just to be clear given your Truth in Advertising disclosure (which still doesn't affect tomorrow night since the party will not reach level 5!) do you believe everyone should get the feat as written for free? So it's only one weapon/implement/focus that benefits? Ignore those classes that need two of those, or dragonborn or the shield push or the other stuff that's coming down the pipe in Divine Power and later products? Or are you asking for a flat +1 to all attacks for all PCs at level 5? How many House Rules are talking about here? [/QUOTE]
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