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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 4812138" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>lets set a bar shall we...how hard is too hard..</p><p></p><p>now remember this is soppost to be the HARDEST fight the PCs could every expect to face... please remember this is well above the avrage fight (Lev - lev+1) and is not an every day accorance, in fact if the h1-e3 mods are to be belived as the standard then about once ever 3 or 4 levels the PCs MIGHT face this big of a threat...</p><p></p><p> should the threat of party memebers dieing be there?</p><p> should it be possible to end in a TPK if things go wrong (tactics or luck)?</p><p> Should the PCs be expected to be able to win every fight without threat of death or major drawback???</p><p> When Pcs can be raised, or even self res does that change the answer to teh above??</p><p></p><p> If a fight is very hard, but is able to be won is it a fair fight?</p><p> If a fight can not be won no matter how wellt eh PCs do is it a fair fight?</p><p></p><p></p><p>[sblock=my take on this] should the threat of party memebers dieing be there? <span style="color: Navy">Yes, with out a doubt infact if in an slightly above avrage encounter there should always be some small threat of PC death...only in encounters of levl -1 or lower should it be no real chance of death outside of a fluke...</span></p><p> should it be possible to end in a TPK if things go wrong (tactics or luck)? <span style="color: navy">Yes if the PCs mess up the BEG fight I see no problem with a TPK...but I also hope that iss toped by retrates when it is going that bad...</span></p><p> Should the PCs be expected to be able to win every fight without threat of death or major drawback??? <span style="color: navy">NO..in fact I can not say this strongly enough...PCs should be in for the fight of there lives...</span> When Pcs can be raised, or even self res does that change the answer to teh above?? <span style="color: navy">Yes...at epic, especialy once the self res stuff comes in there should be PC deaths (well near misses becuse of the self res) at least once per level...what is the pont of having cool toys you never use...</span></p><p></p><p> If a fight is very hard, but is able to be won is it a fair fight? <span style="color: navy">yes...</span></p><p> If a fight can not be won no matter how wellt eh PCs do is it a fair fight?</p><p> <span style="color: navy">no, if you all only hit on 20's and even then some of you don't crit, and he only misses on 3+ with all attacks...that is not a fair fight...lucky for me you need Lev+7 or more to see such things</span></p><p>[/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 4812138, member: 67338"] lets set a bar shall we...how hard is too hard.. now remember this is soppost to be the HARDEST fight the PCs could every expect to face... please remember this is well above the avrage fight (Lev - lev+1) and is not an every day accorance, in fact if the h1-e3 mods are to be belived as the standard then about once ever 3 or 4 levels the PCs MIGHT face this big of a threat... should the threat of party memebers dieing be there? should it be possible to end in a TPK if things go wrong (tactics or luck)? Should the PCs be expected to be able to win every fight without threat of death or major drawback??? When Pcs can be raised, or even self res does that change the answer to teh above?? If a fight is very hard, but is able to be won is it a fair fight? If a fight can not be won no matter how wellt eh PCs do is it a fair fight? [sblock=my take on this] should the threat of party memebers dieing be there? [COLOR="Navy"]Yes, with out a doubt infact if in an slightly above avrage encounter there should always be some small threat of PC death...only in encounters of levl -1 or lower should it be no real chance of death outside of a fluke...[/COLOR] should it be possible to end in a TPK if things go wrong (tactics or luck)? [COLOR="navy"]Yes if the PCs mess up the BEG fight I see no problem with a TPK...but I also hope that iss toped by retrates when it is going that bad...[/COLOR] Should the PCs be expected to be able to win every fight without threat of death or major drawback??? [COLOR="navy"]NO..in fact I can not say this strongly enough...PCs should be in for the fight of there lives...[/COLOR] When Pcs can be raised, or even self res does that change the answer to teh above?? [COLOR="navy"]Yes...at epic, especialy once the self res stuff comes in there should be PC deaths (well near misses becuse of the self res) at least once per level...what is the pont of having cool toys you never use...[/COLOR] If a fight is very hard, but is able to be won is it a fair fight? [COLOR="navy"]yes...[/COLOR] If a fight can not be won no matter how wellt eh PCs do is it a fair fight? [COLOR="navy"]no, if you all only hit on 20's and even then some of you don't crit, and he only misses on 3+ with all attacks...that is not a fair fight...lucky for me you need Lev+7 or more to see such things[/COLOR] [/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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