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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4813387" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Agreed. The Epic game works. It's not as much fun without the bonuses (regardless of whether it is a DM handed out math bug fix, or a DM allowing the feats). But it works.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nail said it better here.</p><p></p><p>It's not that it is unplayable.</p><p></p><p>It's not that is is required.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's just not as much fun when encounters are grindy. If one group of PCs all have +3 to hit at Epic levels and another group of PCs do not, the exact same encounter will (on average) take several rounds longer with the group that does not have +3 to hit.</p><p></p><p>It's about balance and fun.</p><p></p><p>Can it be played? Yup.</p><p></p><p>Will the encounter last longer than similar difficulty heroic encounters? Yup, but for the lesser chance to hit and for the increased number of relative monster hit points.</p><p></p><p>Are longer encounters more fun than shorter ones? Not for me and not generally for anyone I play with.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And, the same applies to the defensive side of the coin. When PCs do not have the NAD feats or a DM supplied NAD fix house rule, they will be affected by conditions more often and will take damage more often which in turn will extend the duration of the encounter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 4813387, member: 2011"] Agreed. The Epic game works. It's not as much fun without the bonuses (regardless of whether it is a DM handed out math bug fix, or a DM allowing the feats). But it works. Nail said it better here. It's not that it is unplayable. It's not that is is required. It's just not as much fun when encounters are grindy. If one group of PCs all have +3 to hit at Epic levels and another group of PCs do not, the exact same encounter will (on average) take several rounds longer with the group that does not have +3 to hit. It's about balance and fun. Can it be played? Yup. Will the encounter last longer than similar difficulty heroic encounters? Yup, but for the lesser chance to hit and for the increased number of relative monster hit points. Are longer encounters more fun than shorter ones? Not for me and not generally for anyone I play with. And, the same applies to the defensive side of the coin. When PCs do not have the NAD feats or a DM supplied NAD fix house rule, they will be affected by conditions more often and will take damage more often which in turn will extend the duration of the encounter. [/QUOTE]
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