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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4824470" data-attributes="member: 2011">If it looks like a horse, smells like a horse, and sounds like a horse, I'm not going to assume it's a rhinoceros just because they tell me that it is a rhinoceros. Duh!This is called a spin. It's no different than your "don't want it forced on them" statement. There was no indication of that from the quoted text, you just claimed that this is what they said based on what you wanted it to be.In their case, it's a marketing spin. It's what every company does when they make a mistake and creating a feat tax for both to hit and NADs is thought by many people on the boards to be a mistake. Companies put the best possible face on mistakes. Why would WotC be any different? They wouldn't.I think they put what they thought was a low intrusive with respect to new rules fix into the system, the community found it to be highly intrusive, and it backfired on them. I don't think there was any grandiose plan ahead of time to replace solution #1 with solution #2 based on how well solution #1 was used by the gaming community. That is so farfetched and hence the reason I think they are spinning now. Opps, we gotta say something now. You want to believe that drivel at face value, go ahead.I'm not going to convince you, so I won't try any further and unless you have some real meat and potatoes about the rules themselves to discuss, I won't discuss this anymore. But, it was important to write the actual text as opposed to your interpretation of it.To me, the important part of the message is that "Yes indeed folks, Expertise is an attempt at a fix for higher levels", just like many of us have claimed since PHB II came out. Whether they are trying to fix the sweet spot, or trying to fix grindiness, or trying to fix something else is debatable because the only thing they said they were fixing was the speed of combat at Paragon and higher levels. Does speed mean number of rounds of combat? Does speed mean how much time each round takes? Or something else? They didn't explicitly say.</blockquote>

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